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Old 09-24-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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Our last national election WAS decided by election fraud..
I believe that to be true.

There was no widespread or significant voter fraud in the 2020 election. The election manipulation appears to have been intentionally concentrated and limited to a few key battleground states and geographical districts which decided the election’s outcome.

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Old 09-24-2023, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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"But why do you want to make it HARDER for people to vote!?!?!?!?!?!? !!!! !!!!!!"
whats harder...???????????

going down to the polling place (local school), showing my id to prove i am me, and from this district, entering the machine, pulling a lever, and done..... in and out in less than 10 minutes..... nothing could be easier.....

with mail in... i have to remember to fill it out..... i have to make sure it gets to the postoffice, ... the post office has longer lines than the polling place, and rude workers.....plus/to boot, the last mail in ballot (not requested by the way) was already filled out straight line "D". nope not for me
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Old 09-24-2023, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The US doesn't have voter fraud at a level that would make a difference in a national election.
so you think there is no such thing as ballot box stuffing in the US???????
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:13 PM
 
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I got my Utah CCW via mail-in. It works as long as you understand the entire process. You don't seem to understand the security behind mail-in voting. Not many people in the recent threads on mail-in voting do.
The difference is that one state's CCW may or may not be accepted in other states.

Analogies are useful in the sense that they give us parallel situations where we can examine similarities and differences to see how similarities support our current intent and how differences discourages. But every analogy has a breaking point, meaning one difference outweighs other differences. And in the case of STATE LEVEL permission of one thing that have no effects on other states, the analogy should be rejected.

A CCW can be rejected, meaning the person is preemptively prevented from carrying his gun in public, or later repealed, meaning renewal is denied.

We cannot do that to a presidential vote, an individual act that has IMMEDIATE national effect. Once a vote is tabulated, it is immediately anonymous, and as such, irrevocably belongs to one side.

With a concealed firearm carry, who benefits? Certainly not the criminals. So who in the criminal underworld is going to openly petition against the mail-in permit process even if the process has undetected flaws?

But with a presidential ballot, who benefits? One side or the other. No one is physically harmed. Unlike a CCW permit that will still take time to grant thru a flawed permission system, the fraudulent presidential ballot is immediately accepted by the flawed system.

The more potential gaps there are in the voting system, as Murphy's Law asserted, there WILL be deliberate frauds.
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:16 PM
 
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I believe that to be true.

There was no widespread or significant voter fraud in the 2020 election. The election manipulation appears to have been intentionally concentrated and limited to a few key battleground states and geographical districts which decided the election’s outcome.

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The intent is not to make one side outweighs the other by sheer number of ballots but to discourage voting via polling statistics.
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:27 PM
 
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Hilarious. Utah has had universal mail-in voting for years. Yeah, conservative Utah where Trump won in 2020. How come the Dems didn't rig that state? Anyone? Bueller?

Guess who votes by mail? Seniors -- who vote predominantly Republican. So what do they do? They make it more difficult for seniors to vote. You can make this lunacy up!
Here in Texas Lone Star Left has an article on how the Republican party is training to their workers on purging registered Democrats off of the voter rolls. Purge the voter rolls instruction included.

The shenanigans depend on where you live.
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:31 PM
 
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Here in Texas the Republican party is giving training to their workers on how strike
dead registered Democrats off of the voter rolls.

The shenanigans depend on where you live.
so you dont think the dead should be removed from the voting rolls.... as long as they are dems of course
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:35 PM
 
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so you dont think the dead should be removed from the voting rolls.... as long as they are dems of course
The Social security notifies counties of deaths immediately. Along with the credit reporting agencies. The county has to supply death certificates.

Looks like the county could notify the voter registrar.

And if that dead person votes by mail in ballot who witnesses the signature? And who checks the signature when the ballot is received.
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:47 PM
 
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The only point of pushing mail-in voting is if you plan to cheat.

The Democrats plan to cheat.
Mail in voting wasn't a problem in this country for over 150 years. Until Trump said it was.
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Old 09-24-2023, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Social security notifies counties of deaths immediately. Along with the credit reporting agencies. The county has to supply death certificates.

Looks like the county could notify the voter registrar.

And if that dead person votes by mail in ballot who witnesses the signature? And who checks the signature when the ballot is received.
who witnesses to signature on any of these....... no one....... 2020 election there was lots of questions, as in PA. there was rumors of counting of ballots that were missing signatures ..... and even with signature, who is matching millions of signed ballots with voter registrations master signature.... the fact is it is NOT happening
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