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Old 09-25-2023, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Personally I have mixed feelings about the electoral college - in the aggregate I think it's a wash for both parties. Many democrats complain that it favors republicans, and thus they want to get rid of it, but I suspect there will be times in the future when it will benefit democrats. So overall my reaction is, 'Whatever.' I have no strong feelings about getting rid of it, or keeping it.

But this I found interesting. According to this Pew survey, nearly 2/3 of Americans want to get rid of it and have the POTUS elected by popular vote. Survey came out today.

Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College
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Nearly two-thirds of U.S. adults (65%) say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency. A third favor keeping the current Electoral College system.

Public opinion on this question is essentially unchanged from last year, though Americans’ support for using the popular vote to decide the presidency remains higher than it was a few years ago.
According to the survey, even 47% of republicans or independents who lean republican are in favor of getting rid of it. Democrats, perhaps unsurprisingly, are overwhelmingly in favor of getting rid of it.

 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:10 PM
 
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So the pretences can be dropped, and the ballots will go directly to 'electing' whoever is put up there. We all know this would ultimately benefit the Democrats moreso than the Republicans. Supposedly, a GOP candidate hasn't won the popular vote since 2004. What does that imply? Democrat hegemony for the next quarter to half a century?
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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We all know this would ultimately benefit the Democrats moreso than the Republicans.
As I noted, that is currently true, but would it still be true, say, 50 years from now? 100 years from now? Who knows? It could be there will be times in the future when the electoral college would benefit democrats, or its absence would benefit republicans.

The thing I'm surprised at is the large % of people who want to get rid of it. I knew many people did, but I never thought it would be as many as 2/3.
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:17 PM
 
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The electoral college definitely favors republicans. They would rarely win the presidency if it was decided by the popular vote. I think that's why many don't bother voting....their vote doesn't really count.
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Personally I have mixed feelings about the electoral college - in the aggregate I think it's a wash for both parties. Many democrats complain that it favors republicans, and thus they want to get rid of it, but I suspect there will be times in the future when it will benefit democrats. So overall my reaction is, 'Whatever.' I have no strong feelings about getting rid of it, or keeping it.

But this I found interesting. According to this Pew survey, nearly 2/3 of Americans want to get rid of it and have the POTUS elected by popular vote. Survey came out today.

Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

According to the survey, even 47% of republicans or independents who lean republican are in favor of getting rid of it. Democrats, perhaps unsurprisingly, are overwhelmingly in favor of getting rid of it.
so win a few major cities and take it all...... small states and rural areas be damned.


welcome to communism
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Supposedly, a GOP candidate hasn't won the popular vote since 2004. What does that imply? Democrat hegemony for the next quarter to half a century?
Nope.

It means that Democrats were put into power for a long enough time to demonstrate what they really intend for the country, and how much they will lie, cheat, defraud, and break our laws to stay in power.

Hopefully this will result in Republican hegemony for the next quarter to half a century.
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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so win a few major cities and take it all...... small states and rural areas be damned.

welcome to communism
Most of the countries in the world elect their president via popular vote.

Are all of those communist?

What would be your excuse if, once again, the lack of an electoral college favored republicans sometime in the future? Would that be communistic?
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Without the EC, elections would be decided by whatever candidate California wanted.
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:40 PM
 
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Without the EC, elections would be decided by whatever candidate California wanted.
You mean it would be decided by the people
 
Old 09-25-2023, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So the pretences can be dropped, and the ballots will go directly to 'electing' whoever is put up there. We all know this would ultimately benefit the Democrats moreso than the Republicans. Supposedly, a GOP candidate hasn't won the popular vote since 2004. What does that imply? Democrat hegemony for the next quarter to half a century?
Popular vote is much easier to cheat on.
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