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Old 10-17-2023, 06:25 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 12 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
There's no hurry. It takes us over a year to choose a President, so what's a few weeks to choose a new Speaker?

Rome wasn't built in a day...haste makes waste...relax with the process.

DC's going through shock therapy right now to jolt them out of the Leftist quagmire.

Its like the SS Enterprise going through a Black hole, & emerging on the other side; into a new Conservative dimension.

I've been claiming that "Conservatism's Rising", and maybe tomorrow, I can proclaim "Conservatism has Risen"
That would be an appropriate stance to take if the speaker had died, or had a tragic illness and had to bow out of his elected duty.

That's not what happened here. You had an uprising in the party that ousted their elected speaker of the house, with no new speaker waiting in the wings who could carry the vote of the party that ousted the previous speaker.

Train wreck. Like watching someone sit and slap their own face.

 
Old 10-17-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Today's vote:

Jordan: 200

Other: 20

Jeffries: 212

Jeffries ahead of Jordan by a few lengths. They need to send Sesame Street in to help the Republicans count votes, or a 2nd grader could do the counting for them. Pathetic.

Conservatism not rising, but falling flat on its dumb face.
 
Old 10-17-2023, 07:00 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 12 days ago)
 
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If the Speaker were elected on a simple plurality - whoever gets the most votes - this nonsense wouldn't happen.

The party in power would elect their speaker. As was intended. Until this childishness.

On the other hand, I'm good with this. If the holdouts continue to holdout, maybe someone more moderate will surface and will be able to get a majority vote of the house.
 
Old 10-17-2023, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Umm.... the abortion issue has spanked a many republican states thus far. I think it will be front and center next fall as well.
That's all the dems have, is the abortion bogeyman. Meanwhile they shoot themselves in the foot by promoting trans issue for children, open borders, high taxes, high inflation, flooding cities with endless busloads of migrants, defundig the police and soft on crime, both of which resulted in high crime, resulting in stores and businesses fleeing cities and taking those jobs with them.

Abortion is a local issue, not a national issue. The federal government cannot set the abortion policy for the individual states. Congress cannot wave a magic wand to set abortion law, and neither can the president. But that won't stop the stupid dems from frightening their voters that mean old Trump will wave his wand and make abortion illegal. The Democrats use that moronic scare tactic every presidential election.

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Old 10-17-2023, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
That's all the dems have, is the abortion bogeyman. Meanwhile they shoot themselves in the foot by promoting trans issue for children, open borders, high taxes, high inflation, flooding cities with endless busloads of migrants, defundig the police and soft on crime, both of which resulted in high crime, resulting in stores and businesses fleeing cities and taking those jobs with them.

Abortion is a local issue, not a national issue. The federal government cannot set the abortion policy for the individual states. Congress cannot wave a magic wand to set abortion law, and neither can the president. But that won't stop the stupid dems from frightening their voters that mean old Trump will wave his wand and make abortion illegal. The Democrats use that moronic scare tactic every presidential election.
…..and meanwhile you have GOP’ers pushing the narrative for a federal abortion policy.

In case you have, umm, forgotten or not paid a scintilla of attention.
 
Old 10-17-2023, 09:41 PM
 
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If the Democrats were serious about governing, which they aren't, they would have voted to keep McCarthy speaker. Democrats are only interested in destroying the country, which is almost the only thing they're good at other than lying.
Don’t blame democrats for the dysfunction of republicans. Not their job to bail out the mess they made. This is all on republicans
 
Old 10-18-2023, 03:40 AM
 
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The Republicans look like the “B team” right now. Nothing I’ve seen makes me think they are better equipped to run this country. They are disorganized, factious, chaotic trash
Not even close to the B team. They have no one to blame but themselves.
 
Old 10-18-2023, 03:52 AM
 
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Jordan has never sponsored a major piece of legislation. He has failed to honor a lawful subpoena. He has failed to go on record about his role at the OSU scandal. He's about drama, not serious government.

If he and his caucus was serious, there would be legislation moving forward on tax reform, immigration reform and other issues. But instead of having an agenda the American people can rally around, he's kowtowing to right wing media. He encourages baseless investigations which have yielded no credible results, and yet wastes taxpayers money, he has encouraged violence on Jan 6, he has attempted govt. shutdown after shutdown ... in short, a vote for Jordan is a vote for chaos, not a conservative agenda, but a radical agenda of vague ideas and promises to the extreme.

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Old 10-18-2023, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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What a joke it was to imagine a Jim Jordan speakership. In such a position, we need a real leader, not someone who treats the government like an auction house.

Why don’t the non-MAGA Republicans approach the Democrats with a reasonable offer like a Brian Fitzpatrick speakership. Someone like him is sure not to fully satisfy either side, but is moderate enough to bring in votes and lead a bipartisan coalition. This is actually an opportunity to start to mend the ridiculous divide in this country, but our elected officials need to take the opportunity seriously.
 
Old 10-18-2023, 05:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by webster View Post
Jordan has never sponsored a major piece of legislation. He has failed to honor a lawful subpoena. He has failed to go on record about his role at the OSU scandal. He's about drama, not serious government.

If he and his caucus was serious, there would be legislation moving forward on tax reform, immigration reform and other issues. But instead of having an agenda the American people can rally around, he's kowtowing to right wing media. He encourages baseless investigations which have yielded no credible results, and yet wastes taxpayers money, he has encouraged violence on Jan 6, he has attempted govt. shutdown after shutdown ... in short, a vote for Jordan is a vote for chaos, not a conservative agenda, but a radical agenda of vague ideas and promises to the extreme.
All 200 Republicans who voted for him know this.

They know he isn't a dealmaker, a negotiator, a leader.

They know that he's not much of a fundraiser.

They know that his hearings regularly expose him for being a fraud and a fool.

Yet they voted for him anyway.

So strange.
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