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Old 10-26-2023, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No combat experience - he never deployed overseas. That's been reported.
I see, thanks.

Then he might just be an evil person

 
Old 10-26-2023, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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These mass shootings in public places are far from small, the US stands alone when it comes to gun violence. He should have had his guns taken away with his mental health issues, if you don't agree then you aren't interested in solutions.
Real lone wolf shootings are exceedingly rare.

If you can't differentiate the difference between the lone wolf shootings vs the much more common gang/drug/crime shootings, you aren't interested in solutions either.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 10:56 AM
 
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Do we know if Card purchased the rifle he used recently?

Because apparently he spent two weeks in a mental health facility in July after saying he was hearing voices and threatened to shoot up a National Guard facility.

Obviously if he already had the gun, this is a moot point. But if he was able to purchase the AR-15 recently, after he was in a mental health facility just 3 months ago for hearing voices and threatening to shoot people....that's a big problem.

link https://www.wcvb.com/article/robert-...oting/45646303
I can almost guarantee he had these guns already, long before indications of mental health issues or family violence.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 10:57 AM
 
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These mass shootings in public places are far from small, the US stands alone when it comes to gun violence. He should have had his guns taken away with his mental health issues, if you don't agree then you aren't interested in solutions.
Agreed. And, like stated upthread, the legislation was there....no one utilized it though.

A law enforcement agency, a law enforcement officer or a family or household member may file a petition under this chapter requesting that the court issue an extreme risk protection order.

Prohibition regarding firearms. That the restrained individual is prohibited from purchasing, possessing or controlling any firearm or attempting to purchase, possess or control any firearm;

Surrender of firearms. That the restrained individual is required to surrender all firearms the restrained individual owns, possesses or controls to a law enforcement agency or law enforcement officer


https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/...s/SP040801.asp

Just like with the thousands of firearms laws we already have, if they aren't utilized or progressive prosecutors plea them down, they won't do any good.

The first steps in reducing violence in this country would be a reboot in our judicial system, more training for law enforcement, and let them do their jobs without caving to political pressure.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Suspect is an army reservist who had mental health issues and was released after 2 weeks. He should not have been released, nor should he have been possessing a gun. Maine law enforcement is stretched thin in this manhunt. Deer hunting season starts this Saturday (last weekend was youth day), and it is a shock to many that this tragedy could have happened here. Plenty of law-abiding gun owners here.

The Veterans Administration, which was critically damaged by Barack Obama, has failed U.S. military veterans in providing basic care for mental and physical health care.

Gov. Janet Mills, Joe Biden, Angus King--You cannot help Maine with this tragedy. (Nor do they truly wish to.)
The Obama/George Soros crew never fails to waste a crisis like this to further their toxic agenda. They have caused too much pain and damage to our nation already. Please get out of way--or better yet, resign, move to North Korea, Yemen...?-- and let the capable, honest people who are not traitors to the United States do their work without your incompetent interference and lies.
You don't know the level of his issues, pure speculation on his release and Monday morning quarterbacking.
His guns certainly should have been taken away but Maine doesn't have any Red Flag laws,

I don't know why you are making this political, the VA was certainly improved thanks to Robert Gates. Did you forget the treatment of veterans at Walter Reed and other hospitals, we spent millions in the ME wars but didn't take care of the veterans.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 11:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Spoiler alert: not all mass shooters are mentally ill. Some are just evil. Your larger point remains true though. We also have a problem where too many people have guns who have no business having guns. I would not know how to address either of those issues. But then the idiots in Washington don't either.
What I want to know is, if Maine has such lax gun laws, why wasn't there any return fire on this guy.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 11:03 AM
 
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Personally I think we need to just start making all men get therapy if they want it or not.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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He shot up a bowling alley and a bar and grille where people in his town were hanging out with friends and having a good time.

This guy must have been filled with hatred to do something like this. it's scary that they haven't caught him, yet.
 
Old 10-26-2023, 11:08 AM
 
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Quit blaming guns and blame the blue state and their leaders.

In 2015, Maine passed a permitless carry law that allows its residents to carry loaded, concealed handguns in public without a permit or background checks.
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Is this not what conservatives prefer? Don't most deep red states (Texas, Florida, etc) have very similar, laxed gun laws?
 
Old 10-26-2023, 11:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog View Post
Spoiler alert: not all mass shooters are mentally ill. Some are just evil. Your larger point remains true though. We also have a problem where too many people have guns who have no business having guns. I would not know how to address either of those issues. But then the idiots in Washington don't either.
About 5% of mass shootings (FBI definition) are like this.

The next smallest slice is domestic situations.

By far the largest slice is gang related or gang member involved....but people don't want to talk about those, I've had threads on mass shootings covering this.
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