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Old 11-13-2023, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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How many commenting on this topic are veterans or active duty US armed forces? Based on many of the comments I've read in this thread, I am guessing not very many.

I enlisted in the US Army at age 19 in 1974 and served 4 years active duty, stationed outside the US for my term of service after basic training and AIT.

Roughly 5 percent of persons living in the US at the present time are veterans or active duty members of the US armed forces. The remaining 95 percent of the population doesn't understand the full meaning of service in the armed forces of the United States. It is often obvious to spot that lack of insight from most of the 95 percent who have not served.

 
Old 11-13-2023, 02:55 PM
 
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I have no regrets about the 20 years that I served, but I'm glad I retired when I did.
 
Old 11-13-2023, 03:06 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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What were these numbers in the past? I didn't bother to read the whole article. Does it claim that this percentage was a lot higher in the past? If so, then why did we have the draft until the early 1970s?
The draft was for the Vietnam War, that draft ended in 1973 and the All Volunteer Military began and remains till this day.
 
Old 11-13-2023, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The reason the poll reads the way it does is because our own worst enemy is among us, on the left. Listen to them, they hate everything America stands for so definitely when it comes to civil war 2.0 count me in.
Hot Civil War 2.0 fetish among the Right is alive and well.
 
Old 11-13-2023, 03:47 PM
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Location: 9764 Jeopardy Lane
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Hot Civil War 2.0 fetish among the Right is alive and well.
Thanks for your contributions to the topic of the thread, trolling by definition.

I thought you leftists like fetishes, like teaching children to be the opposite sex and doing drag shows and safe spaces.

I should fit right in.
 
Old 11-13-2023, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Hot Civil War 2.0 fetish among the Right is alive and well.
Heehee. It’s kinda true though.
 
Old 11-13-2023, 04:02 PM
 
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Even in the best of times, most wars are unnecessary.

We are definitely not in the best of times....throw on top of that the fact that mainly lunatics
are running what appears to be an Empire in the process of unraveling.

Would I participate in one of their crazy wars, HA!
 
Old 11-13-2023, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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The draft was for the Vietnam War, that draft ended in 1973 and the All Volunteer Military began and remains till this day.
The draft that ended in 1973, was started in 1940. If people were so much more eager to fight for their country in the past, why did we need the draft for those 30+ years?
 
Old 11-13-2023, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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The draft that ended in 1973, was started in 1940. If people were so much more eager to fight for their country in the past, why did we need the draft for those 30+ years?
Well, for one thing, when one volunteers, there is a lot of an option of what service they will be in and what job they will do. In a draft, one goes where the needs are.

Further, I am pretty sure, IMHO, that ending the draft in 1973 was very much a political move for the politicians to do what they want. With a draft, everyone's kin and blood is involved in the fighting, more or less. When many of the parents of common America stand to suffer losses, they can tell the government NO with a lot more power.

But in a volunteer force, that power shifts back to the politicians.

Rather ironic for the discussion we are having............in a bitter sort of way.

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Old 11-13-2023, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Run the poll again after a major attack.
Exactly. Speaking on the poll, Tom Shugart, a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security and a former Navy attack submarine commander, said:

"I'm very skeptical of that being accurate because I think the 'why' you're in a war can dramatically change the answer to that question," he said. "I was in the military before 9/11; a lot of society didn't really think about the military very much [before then]."

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