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Old 06-02-2008, 11:42 PM
 
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International bankers privatized strategic sectors from currency, war, natural resources, elections and public culture.

Citizens are slaves in their own country.

The government must serve the interest of the people.

Private government is wrong, it's institutionalized corruption.

The citizens of the wealthiest nation on Earth deserve better and the US government should promote integrity not corruption!
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Ok Frenchie, lets see what you got

International bankers privatized strategic sectors from currency, war, natural resources, elections and public culture.
No

Citizens are slaves in their own country.
Nope

The government must serve the interest of the people.
It does

Private government is wrong, it's institutionalized corruption.
Wrongo

The citizens of the wealthiest nation on Earth deserve better and the US government should promote integrity not corruption!
They do

OOOO so sorry, 0 for 5 that stinks, play again some time.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:27 AM
 
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Default Imagine there's no heaven...

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International bankers privatized strategic sectors from currency, war, natural resources, elections and public culture.

Citizens are slaves in their own country.

The government must serve the interest of the people.

Private government is wrong, it's institutionalized corruption.

The citizens of the wealthiest nation on Earth deserve better and the US government should promote integrity not corruption!
Your perspective is sheer negative, operating under presumption that all things are somehow inherently right or wrong when they aren't having that nature. Those values are determined by human interaction.

They are wrongfully applied by individuals, and wrongfully used as tools to abuse people. The opposite can also be said for the positive aspects. What you have offered above is anarchism as solution, and that won't work as a system for people to cooperate for mutual benefits. That's the trade off in civilization and its discontents- part of self does have to become subordinate to language/rules/orgs to be able to self promote and realize more stability.

Should you abandon civilization, you wouldn't have the time to philosophically ponder what you're thinking now. You'd be too busy running away from an animal hunting you down, looking for food, shelter, water, and trying to avoid being overcome by the thin veil that separates you from mother nature imposing her elements upon you. That is the stark reality of our material existence. I highly recommend you go to the wilderness and experience it for yourself directly. Complete freedom from all abstract realities of man. No religion, no politics, no currency, no language... all of it gone. It's quite liberating.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:44 AM
 
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Oh I'd also like to add a perspective offered my from a romanian brainiac I was dating once upon a time. We got into a discussion about how men and women seem to have different languages to express themselves, and how failing to speak the others language appears to be the real problem in communication. Love and its expression have different outlets that are at times misinterpreted.
He told me he first realized how his father loved him when he was in germany. How every clock was perfectly on time, and that pains were taken to keep the trains running perfectly in time with those clocks. That it took considerable amount of effort and commitment from all of these men carrying the world on their backs in service to people they didn't know but loved equally in their labors. To create things of beauty and intelligent designs that serve a greater cause. That's what military does for us, that's what these tractor trailer drivers driving past our houses in the night, the watchmen, the aclu lawyer, and the utilities operator are doing- it's for us as much as it is for them. Proper stewards, guardians, and faithful laborers of common fate.
Just another view of civilization for you to consider.
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:37 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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The federal government incorporated sometime in the 1860's, after the Civil War, it's a corporation now, just as all state and local "governments" are now. Hence the reason you pay "property taxes" (the corporation actually owns it, you merely rent it), etc.
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