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Old 01-04-2024, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nothing will be done if the Republicans have their way. They don’t want to negotiate, they want to use it for a fear and a political issue. No way will the Republicans help solve the problem. It is the only issue they have to run

https://www.businessinsider.com/troy...0would%20I%3F%
There is a bill with some bipartisan support we will see if it gets brought to the floor, both sides need to stop playing politics. Republicans are starting impeachment of Mayorkas, that solves nothing.
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Old 01-04-2024, 07:29 PM
 
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Good luck, tell me how that hard stance goes.
Well whether it goes well or not has nothing to do with whether it is right. The fact of whether the democrats and their agenda are beatable or not is a completely different topic from whether or not we should just cave in. But I can tell you the soft stance sure didn't work.

We are in the last stages of being able to defend our nation. How far into that stage is debatable. The United States should fight to preserve itself for future generations that may appreciate the nation like the generations of the past did. We need drastic action and we need it now.
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Old 01-04-2024, 07:30 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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There is a bill with some bipartisan support we will see if it gets brought to the floor, both sides need to stop playing politics. Republicans are starting impeachment of Mayorkas, that solves nothing.
It provides a good dog and pony show.

Congress excels at dog and pony shows that accomplish nothing
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Old 01-04-2024, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There is a bill with some bipartisan support we will see if it gets brought to the floor, both sides need to stop playing politics. Republicans are starting impeachment of Mayorkas, that solves nothing.
So ... ignore incompetence? Another Hillary Clinton message? "at this point, what difference does it make"
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Old 01-05-2024, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Right now the massive illegal migrations serve to strengthen the democrat party. The democrats want to change the national Presidential election to a popular vote. They want the nation changed from a representative republic to a "democracy" and to establish majority (mob) rule. Mob rule and massive illegal immigration go hand in hand. They want this because they know increased numbers of government dependent unemployed illegal migrants enriches the stranglehold they would have on the elections.

Sadly so many neglect history. This tactic of promising democracy and equity has been used in almost every communist/socialist takeover in modern times. The takeover of Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Cuba, and many more all started out with the promise of reform, change and democracy. Look at those nations today. Where is the democracy? Where is the equity?

History tells us what will happen. When the socialist have complete and unchallenged control they will begin the purges. It always happens. When the financially dependent are no longer a benefit to the ruling class, they will be forced to work in labor camps, reeducated into willing workers then relocated or eliminated as enemies of the state.

It has always happened. Many stories of survivors talk of cheering on the revolutionaries to only later be enslaved by them. Make no mistake, an unchecked ruling class will always result in an enslaved nation. The haves and the connected will not share, they will not continue to feed the downtrodden and lazy that helped them gain power. Read history, study what has happened in the nations that allowed the country to fall to socialist/communist revolutionaries. You will soon understand why history lessons are hated by people trying to overthrow a nation from within.
Very well said and sadly, the bodies that will be piled in the streets are the Americans, mostly minorities and the poor, that blindly voted Democrat their entire lives.
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Old 01-05-2024, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Nope, it's far too late.

We.just have to accept that these illegal parasites are here to stay for good.
This is my strange view of things in a country with a 1.65 fertility rate: Every abortion in this country translates to one more immigrant.
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Old 01-05-2024, 04:30 AM
 
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I say this about illegal immigration: Follow the money. So many business owners (including those who vote Republican) are addicted to cheap labor that they'll look the other way.
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Old 01-05-2024, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I see... .

1) Inept politicians who just don't get it.
2) Businesses that want cheap, compliant, and humble labor.
3) Bleeding heart individuals.
I see a permanent voting majority for Democrats and the end of the United States.
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Old 01-05-2024, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I see a permanent voting majority for Democrats and the end of the United States.
Hispanics 4 Trump:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/polls-sho...101956385.html

I see a permanent voting majority for Republicans

Conservatism Rising
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Old 01-05-2024, 05:24 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I say this about illegal immigration: Follow the money. So many business owners (including those who vote Republican) are addicted to cheap labor that they'll look the other way.
why blame business owners. They have no authority over the border.

Why are Dems not blaming their President ? HE is the one that opened the border.
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