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Old 02-01-2024, 10:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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At their peak in 1959, California’s 12 state hospitals housed 37,489 people. That was the first year of Gov. Edmund G. “Pat” Brown’s tenure. Brown steadily reduced the population, down to a little more than 26,000 by 1966, the year he lost reelection to Reagan.

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Edmund G. “Pat” Brown had already began the process of setting free the mentally ill years before Reagan was elected.
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Old 02-01-2024, 10:40 PM
 
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Some people are mentally ill beyond what can be managed at home. Can't lock someone up in a prison based on what they might do. Doctor can evaluate the situation sometimes after getting them stable on meds they can go home.
Hello McFly, anyone home?
That is my point, as trying to do it at home, even for a loved one can result if people getting killed.
Sure, we don't want to lock up a person in prison for being mentally ill, but we also cannot wait until they snap and go on a murder spree.

Think of the Sandy Hook massacre where the nutjob killed 26 people despite his mother knowing he had mental illness, but being an adult at 20 years old, she couldn't force him to get help. So he kills her, steals her gun and killed a bunch of innocent children.
Had he been committed into a psychiatric hospital for evaluation and treatment, those kids would almost certainly be alive today, including his mother.
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Old 02-01-2024, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Hello McFly, anyone home?
That is my point, as trying to do it at home, even for a loved one can result if people getting killed.
Sure, we don't want to lock up a person in prison for being mentally ill, but we also cannot wait until they snap and go on a murder spree.

Think of the Sandy Hook massacre where the nutjob killed 26 people despite his mother knowing he had mental illness, but being an adult at 20 years old, she couldn't force him to get help. So he kills her, steals her gun and killed a bunch of innocent children.
Had he been committed into a psychiatric hospital for evaluation and treatment, those kids would almost certainly be alive today, including his mother.
Massive mental hospitals are not the answer most are not violent.
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Old 02-02-2024, 12:02 AM
 
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Edmund G. “Pat” Brown had already began the process of setting free the mentally ill years before Reagan was elected.
And Reagan was tied to the for profit houses they went into but were failing and then took it national.
Ronald Reagan's shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness
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Old 02-02-2024, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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This is where progressives will claim the kid was secretly abused for many years.

Any time a kid kills his parents, or a wife kills her husband, thats their excuse.
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Old 02-02-2024, 04:39 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Pot psychosis! He wasn't conscious when he killed his father. Probation!
Too bad it wasn't in CA. He would walk under democrat legal precedent.
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Old 02-02-2024, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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They have no place to go. Without an address they can't get a job. Without Meds. they can't interact with people in general.

Abuses in the public health hospitals were a problem.
Right now the homeless are not being thought of as people. Many cannot even look you in the eye if you wish to try to help.
Except for those who talk about it with no solution of the problem.
I can only see some sort of public health solution. Non-profits cannot handle the flow. The top1% do not really have solutions and do not want to put there money into the problem.
Right now they are giving huge sums to politicians. Who have no idea how to solve the problem.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:09 AM
 
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6 hours. a complete nutjob. his poor dad....
Wow!!
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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I agree emptying these facilites was not the answer but the conditions in the mental institutions were horrible. I lived near byberry in Northeast Philadelphia and the stories I heard about the place is mind numbing. More money should have been put into those places and along with a crackdown on the abuse.


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Edmund G. “Pat” Brown had already began the process of setting free the mentally ill years before Reagan was elected.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:35 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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DM is reporting that he changed after using drugs while at Penn State. He looked like a good kid before that.
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