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Old 02-12-2024, 01:37 PM
 
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Wrong messenger addressing the virtues of paying your bills.

and who is the right messenger, the President that has been in government since 1973, never had a job in the private sector, never pay a personal loan to create jobs and all he has done is tax people and print money. Yeah, he is the perfect model to tell the politicians in Europe to be more fiscal responsible with other's people money about their defense.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Anybody ever thought if we let Russia invade the US then the US will actually send money to the US?
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:42 PM
 
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Anybody ever thought if we let Russia invade the US then the US will actually send money to the US?
First of all that would never happen in a million years. But if the US has gone through what Ukraine has gone through the last two years, even for just one day then most Americans would have a completely attitude about this. Think post 9/11/2001. But I'm glad that Americans were having a great year in 2022.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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What he is doing is sending his buddy Putin a message. He has never had anything bad to say about Putin and his regime. Like Putin has had countless people that have opposed him only to disappear or were mysteriously poisoned. This is what dictators can do with complete immunity. This is Trumps plan. He's already hinted at this.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:46 PM
 
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What he is doing is sending his buddy Putin a message. He has never had anything bad to say about Putin and his regime. Like Putin has had countless people that have opposed him only to disappear or were mysteriously poisoned. This is what dictators can do with complete immunity. This is Trumps plan. He's already hinted at this.
Like I said, he wants to turn America into Russia 2.0, and his supporters feel "Vladmeer Pootin is the kind of pres'dint we need for Am'rrka!" You have the freedom of speech as long as you groupthink with the rest of them. Otherwise, you'll be unpersoned and erased from existance.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:46 PM
 
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Unfortunately, people are going to agree with Trump. What Trump doesn't seem to comprehend is that we are dependent on NATO for our shipping. Operation Ocean Shield is an anti-piracy initiative in the Indian Ocean which was established in 2009; over half the ships are non-US; most are NATO.
Let's make 194 countries minus Russia into NATO members and international crime and corruption will end. Do you understand that a big bureaucracy of 31 countries run by politicians brings a lot of corruption and wasteful spending of money that is printed? Explain how expanding it further is going to make that organization functional?

Do we really need 31 countries in NATO and have our military in 80 countries for shipping lanes in and out of the U.S? To defend ourselves from pirates? Really?


I heard lots of b.s. but now We need a 31 country NATO and keep expanding East to combat sea pirates. Those poor Somolis with their little boats are a real threat.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:54 PM
 
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They will feel it. Do you understand how politics works even in foreign countries depended on. U.S. aid? You have 30 countries full of politicians and full of bureaucracy who are dependent on that money that are not accountable to Americans. You think politics here is bad. Try 30 countries not accountable to our standards.
30 countries dependent on what monies? 30 countries in NATO dependent on US aid?


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Yes they will if they are honest about the Russian "threat". If they don't step up, that shows how full of $hiat they were about the Russian threat. Maybe they can do another energy pact with Russia like they did against the advise of Trump.
Maybe. Not getting into the weeds about off topic rants.
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Old 02-12-2024, 01:59 PM
 
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Anybody ever thought if we let Russia invade the US then the US will actually send money to the US?
What outside entity exactly is stopping the US from cutting its defence budget and spending that money on Americans?

Can you imagine if they did? That would be socialism, no?
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Old 02-12-2024, 02:01 PM
 
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Like I said, he wants to turn America into Russia 2.0, and his supporters feel "Vladmeer Pootin is the kind of pres'dint we need for Am'rrka!" You have the freedom of speech as long as you groupthink with the rest of them. Otherwise, you'll be unpersoned and erased from existance.

Funny, Trump wasn't the President that spied on his political opponents or put his political rivals in jail or bankrupt their families or kick them out of ballots. He didn't put reporters or whistleblowers in jail. Trump didn't invade countries let alone 1 country and he should have received a Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords but he is Putin.


From a Veteran to a Veteran, they really brainwashed you into fear. We should always question power here and overseas and if you are happy with our foreign policy of endless wars since Vietnam to present, then you are part of the problem. I'm still waiting for the people behind the Vietnam debacle and war crimes face accountability but they are either dead or really old. You think We will get some for the Iraq and Afghanistan debacles? and these are the same people with the great plan of expanding NATO from 15 countries to 31 countries and keep marching East but anybody is a traitor if We question that. LOL.
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Old 02-12-2024, 02:16 PM
 
Location: L.A.
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You have 30 countries full of politicians and full of bureaucracy who are dependent on that money that are not accountable to Americans. You think politics here is bad. Try 30 countries not accountable to our standards.
I have no idea why certain Americans think the EU is great, it’s literally the continuation of the third reich where unelected bureaucrats screw Eastern and Southern Europeans to line the pocket books of bureaucrats in Brussels. Germany loves shutting down competition across South East Europe. They also push the same expansionist ideas that the reich had, except they say it’s to preserve “democracy.” Lol. People are brainwashed to not see history play out in real time.

There is nothing to admire about the EU, especially as they’re so weak they have to lie about the United States blowing up Nord Stream’s pipeline.
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