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So they call your work, check your tax returns, and you have to account for every penny in your bank account. Right.
And the process is even more stringent for business. And I’d imagine, even more stringent for business when the guarantor is an individual, that owns the company. Granted.
When they call your work, say that’s Trump Org (which is in this case is you, Donald Trump) and verify your holdings and cash (you account for every penny in the bank) and you lie to them, do you think that’s ok?
How about inflating your wages? That ok?
Even though the bank does verify independently, is it ok to lie to them when they ask you for the information directly?
Even if they approve the loans anyway, are you in any way obligated to tell the whole truth in your disclosures?
You asked why if the bank has no trouble with Trump, why should I.
Well because I have to follow the rules. Don’t you?
Plus, all this shows how little integrity he has in business. How much integrity does he have total? Not much, IMHO.
Jesus, how old are you. TDS makes you foolish. I suggest you stop posting under this topic.
How can you inflate your wages if they go by the I.R.S. and bank records? How can you fake your bank accounts unless the banks are in it on the scam.
What you call a "lie" is not a lie. You are being asked what your properties are worth. Either the banks accepts it or they don't but is NOT a crime to disagree value with the banks since they ultimately decide to approve the loan, it's their money and since Trump guaranteed the loans with his money, then there is NO fraud. Have you negotiated a sale. I have a feeling you haven't either.
If the banks says the rules were followed who is to say it wasn't? 2 political hacks. I guess when the banks approves a loan, you have to run it to the DNC to make sure they give it an ok.
Your opinions here are worthless. The banks had no problem with Trump. They made huge profits and kept returning to him. If you want to go after the whole capitalist system, good luck but using a law to only go after 1 person is an abuse of power and corruption but your only issue is if Trump put the "correct" value in a form. Yeah, I can see your concerns about the bank industry meanwhile you turn Mr. Magoo on government corruption and abuse of power.
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Jesus, how old are you. TDS makes you foolish. I suggest you stop posting under this topic.
How can you inflate your wages if they go by the I.R.S. and bank records? How can you fake your bank accounts unless the banks are in it on the scam.
What you call a "lie" is not a lie. You are being asked what your properties are worth. Either the banks accepts it or they don't but is NOT a crime to disagree value with the banks since they ultimately decide to approve the loan, it's their money and since Trump guaranteed the loans with his money, then there is NO fraud. Have you negotiated a sale. I have a feeling you haven't either.
If the banks says the rules were followed who is to say they weren't? 2 political hacks. I guess when the banks approves a loan, you have to run it to the DNC to make sure they give it an ok.
Your opinions here are worthless. The banks had no problem with Trump. They made huge profits and kept returning to him. If you want to go after the whole capitalist system, good luck but using a law to only go after 1 person is an abuse of power and corruption but your only issue is if Trump put the "correct" value in a form. Yeah, I can see your concerns about the bank industry meanwhile you turn Mr. Magoo on government corruption and abuse of power.
Oh that’s not my only issue.
But it’s one of the issues we’re discussing.
It’s not only my issue, either.
Apparently, the judge and AG also took issue.
To answer your questions, you can fake your “wages” (revenue) and pretty much everything else by lying on your Statement of Financial Condition.
As I’ve provided evidence of, repeatedly.
You don’t have to agree with it. But you are not invited to call me names or insult me, regardless.
What the banks did or did not do does not absolve one from falsifying documents.
I will take your suggestion that I stop posting under advisement, and soundly reject it.
Yeah, 2 crooks. New York never used the law on a person or bank that weren't convicted of crime, or didn't leave victims or left losses. The people they charged, that was their main case. Of course they took issue with Trump, Trump is Biden main political opponent and his #1 threat to get him off power. You still lie to yourself that this isn't political.
If you fake your wages, the loan application automatically gets denied once the bank can't verify your wages or your collateral.
There is a difference faking your wages to a difference of opinion on value of properties. Both are not the same thing but you keep repeating it as such. You are either dishonest or ignorant about banking.
Your posts are insulting and you keep typing on the topic and you know nothing about banking.
You know why Trump was charged civil and not criminal? Even that you seem clueless.
Criminal case involves crimes against the state while a civil case is essentially a dispute between 2 private parties. In this case, the D/A, since the banks has no issue with Trump. Crimes must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury. Civil claims are proven by a low standard and a verdict can be render by a judge and is based by preponderance of the evidence that the defendant actions caused injuries.
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Yeah, 2 crooks. New York never used the law on a person or bank that weren't convicted of crime, or didn't leave victims or left losses. The people they charged, that was their main case. Of course they took issue with Trump, Trump is Biden main political opponent and his #1 threat to get him off power. You still lie to yourself that this isn't political.
If you fake your wages, the loan application automatically gets denied once the bank can't verify your wages or your collateral.
There is a difference faking your wages to a difference of opinion on value of properties. Both are not the same thing but you keep repeating it as such. You are either dishonest or ignorant about banking.
Your posts are insulting and you keep typing on the topic and you know nothing about banking.
You know why Trump was charged civil and not criminal? Even that you seem clueless.
Criminal case involves crimes against the state while a civil case is essentially a dispute between 2 private parties. In this case, the D/A, since the banks has no issue with Trump. Crimes must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury. Civil claims are proven by a low standard and a verdict can be render by a judge and is based by preponderance of the evidence that the defendant actions caused injuries.
Just curious, what is your definition of the word fraud.
Trump was railroaded.
Joe ran off the tracks.
70% are fully vaxxed.
The rest are deplorable.
Men are men.
Women are women.
Racism is a crutch.
Cops were defunded.
Bud lost billions.
Disney sued Florida.
Borders are busted.
Crime is high.
Gas is higher
Prices are highest.
Rent is ridiculous.
Homeless are pitching tents.
There's a housing shortage.
There's a migrant crisis.
Wages are up.
Credit cards are maxed.
We have to watch our words.
We have to protect our guns.
You voted for this and yet fixated on putting one man behind bars. What's the problem ?
Yeah, 2 crooks. New York never used the law on a person or bank that weren't convicted of crime, or didn't leave victims or left losses. The people they charged, that was their main case. Of course they took issue with Trump, Trump is Biden main political opponent and his #1 threat to get him off power. You still lie to yourself that this isn't political.
If you fake your wages, the loan application automatically gets denied once the bank can't verify your wages or your collateral.
There is a difference faking your wages to a difference of opinion on value of properties. Both are not the same thing but you keep repeating it as such.[/b] You are either dishonest or ignorant about banking.
Your posts are insulting and you keep typing on the topic and you know nothing about banking.
You know why Trump was charged civil and not criminal? Even that you seem clueless.
Criminal case involves crimes against the state while a civil case is essentially a dispute between 2 private parties. In this case, the D/A, since the banks has no issue with Trump. Crimes must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury. Civil claims are proven by a low standard and a verdict can be render by a judge and is based by preponderance of the evidence that the defendant actions caused injuries.
You brought up wages. And checking credit. Lol, what do you think was going on here? Do you think these deals are done like they are here in the mere mortal universe?
Of course they didn’t call his work to verify his wages! JFC.
This was not a loan product like plebs like you and I would use to buy a house, or a shop on Main St.
The basis of his net worth used to guarantee the loans ETC was calculated on the value of hotels, resorts, golf clubs, land leases and other investments. Those values aren’t just property values, the values rely on proper reporting and estimation of revenue, memberships, vacancy rates, zoning uses, shares, partnerships and cash at hand.
The statements and appraisals/valuations can only be at least somewhat accurately assessed using generally accepted accounting principles and the CFO had an obligation to follow those when passing on the financial reporting to the accountants to compile the Statement Of Financial Condition, and he did not.
Two of the highest taking corporate officers of Trump Org were so derelict in their responsibilities that they have been barred from financial management roles in NY companies for life.
Former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg: $1 million fine
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
Former Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney:
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
This all follows the exact MO Trump has demonstrated for years.
Lie, omit, obfuscate, deny, fudge and just generally act like a POS in business but lay the blame for wrongdoing when caught at everyone else’s feet.
The fact that a couple of banks stooped to his level to make money and try and gain more “whales” does not absolve him for his sins or his cronies of wrongdoing nor relieve them from responsibility.
It’s all here. Every property and the schemes used to “value” them. Read it and perhaps educate yourself on the facts of the matter.
Trump was railroaded.
Joe ran off the tracks.
70% are fully vaxxed.
The rest are deplorable.
Men are men.
Women are women.
Racism is a crutch.
Cops were defunded.
Bud lost billions.
Disney sued Florida.
Borders are busted.
Crime is high.
Gas is higher
Prices are highest.
Rent is ridiculous.
Homeless are pitching tents.
There's a housing shortage.
There's a migrant crisis.
Wages are up.
Credit cards are maxed.
We have to watch our words.
We have to protect our guns.
You voted for this and yet fixated on putting one man behind bars. What's the problem ?
He tried to destroy America, and damn near succeeded. He needs to die penniless and alone in a concrete cell with no windows.
You brought up wages. And checking credit. Lol, what do you think was going on here? Do you think these deals are done like they are here in the mere mortal universe?
Of course they didn’t call his work to verify his wages! JFC.
This was not a loan product like plebs like you and I would use to buy a house, or a shop on Main St.
The basis of his net worth used to guarantee the loans ETC was calculated on the value of hotels, resorts, golf clubs, land leases and other investments. Those values aren’t just property values, the values rely on proper reporting and estimation of revenue, memberships, vacancy rates, zoning uses, shares, partnerships and cash at hand.
The statements and appraisals/valuations can only be at least somewhat accurately assessed using generally accepted accounting principles and the CFO had an obligation to follow those when passing on the financial reporting to the accountants to compile the Statement Of Financial Condition, and he did not.
Two of the highest taking corporate officers of Trump Org were so derelict in their responsibilities that they have been barred from financial management roles in NY companies for life.
Former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg: $1 million fine
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
Former Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney:
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
This all follows the exact MO Trump has demonstrated for years.
Lie, omit, obfuscate, deny, fudge and just generally act like a POS in business but lay the blame for wrongdoing when caught at everyone else’s feet.
The fact that a couple of banks stooped to his level to make money and try and gain more “whales” does not absolve him for his sins or his cronies of wrongdoing nor relieve them from responsibility.
It’s all here. Every property and the schemes used to “value” them. Read it and perhaps educate yourself on the facts of the matter.
You brought up wages. And checking credit. Lol, what do you think was going on here? Do you think these deals are done like they are here in the mere mortal universe?
Of course they didn’t call his work to verify his wages! JFC.
This was not a loan product like plebs like you and I would use to buy a house, or a shop on Main St.
The basis of his net worth used to guarantee the loans ETC was calculated on the value of hotels, resorts, golf clubs, land leases and other investments. Those values aren’t just property values, the values rely on proper reporting and estimation of revenue, memberships, vacancy rates, zoning uses, shares, partnerships and cash at hand.
The statements and appraisals/valuations can only be at least somewhat accurately assessed using generally accepted accounting principles and the CFO had an obligation to follow those when passing on the financial reporting to the accountants to compile the Statement Of Financial Condition, and he did not.
Two of the highest taking corporate officers of Trump Org were so derelict in their responsibilities that they have been barred from financial management roles in NY companies for life.
Former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg: $1 million fine
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
Former Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney:
+ barred for 3 years from serving as officer of NY company
+ barred for life from financial management role in NY company
This all follows the exact MO Trump has demonstrated for years.
Lie, omit, obfuscate, deny, fudge and just generally act like a POS in business but lay the blame for wrongdoing when caught at everyone else’s feet.
The fact that a couple of banks stooped to his level to make money and try and gain more “whales” does not absolve him for his sins or his cronies of wrongdoing nor relieve them from responsibility.
It’s all here. Every property and the schemes used to “value” them. Read it and perhaps educate yourself on the facts of the matter.
Would you feel better if republicans prosecuted him? If so, you will be happy to know that probably 99% of all of the witnesses who will be called to testify against Trump in his criminal trials will be card-carrying republicans, and his documents trial will be held in a conservative area in Florida.
Justice doesn’t have a party affiliation.
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