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Old 03-13-2024, 08:36 AM
 
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I don't know about "half", but I do know of a fair number of grandparents who are sole provides for, and raising, their grandchildren. I don't ask reasons; feel it too personal of a question.
The reason is their kids are drug addicted. I know at least two of these families and I live in a high end neighborhood.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:39 AM
 
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I was alarmed when I read the title of this thread until I actually read the article, and the average age of the adults being helped is 22, which is still fairly young. If half of all adults regardless of age were still being helped, I would say that truly would be alarming!
If the consensus is that humans' brains dont fully develop until they are 25, is it any wonder? It been just a little over 50 years since the age of majority was 21.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:42 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The SAT has been recalibrated at least three times due to falling scores and that just masks the failure of k-12 education.
The reading level of US adults is at a 6th grade level now
It's 7th-8th grade, but that's not a lot better.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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1980 - you did not need any degree

K-12 education was much more rigorous back then
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Really? I didn't know that.

I thought K-12 education was much more lax in the 1970s.

But things were obviously very different demographically.
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The SAT has been recalibrated at least three times due to falling scores and that just masks the failure of k-12 education.
True.
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The reading level of US adults is at a 6th grade level now
Actually, most American adults (54%) can only read at the 5th grade level or below:

Low Literacy Levels Among U.S. Adults Costing The Economy $2.2 Trillion A Year
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:44 AM
 
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I don't know about "half", but I do know of a fair number of grandparents who are sole provides for, and raising, their grandchildren. I don't ask reasons; feel it too personal of a question.
It is quite common and I am one of them.
One reason is because they love them and want them to be safe and raised in a stable, loving, supportive environment that their parents cant or wont provide.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's 7th-8th grade, but that's not a lot better.

2022 research - more than 50% of Americans read below 6th grade

https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Military City, USA.
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Rather support my adult child and have him living at home being dependent on me? I would have tossed him to the curb, but then I raised him to be independent, so he put himself through college while being enlisted in the Army Reserve, and then became active duty when he graduated in 3 years by going to school year round. Now, a Colonel with nearly 30 years in the military. Raise your children right for best results, as putting in the work when they are young has many benefits.

I was taught a good work ethic. You take any job to support yourself, and you realize that you can't afford the things and have the salary of someone that has been working at the job for 30 years!

At some points the parents will not be there. And, I know that it isn't just younger people that move home or are dependent on their parents who I actually see going back to work to help support their dead beat kids!

Would I be bribed if I tossed my son to the curb that it would cost the relationship? You know, that would never have been an issue, as he knew better.
Exactly right! I raised my daughter to be a strong, independent female by TELLING her what was expected of her. You WILL go to college after HS, you WILL have a career to support yourself rather than be dependant on a man, WE (her father and I) will NOT be raising a child out of wedlock, WHAT do you want to be when you are grown? When all the junk mail started coming in close to her college graduation, of which she had decided on her career path, and was including military information saying 4 years would be worth 75% (or 75 thousand dollars, I forget which) of paying toward her Masters Degree, she joined a branch of the service where she went in as an officer BECAUSE of her degree. She now has 2 Masters degrees in her chosen profession.

Many parents just let their kids coast in life instead of helping them decide a path for adulthood. Nobody helped me or my husband, and we made it.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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How can you leave home at 17 when you’re barely out of high school at that age?

I never felt that was normal, even decades ago.
Going to college is "leaving home" if you live on campus.
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Old 03-13-2024, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Ha ha, you boomers make me laugh.

My 60 year old idiot brother never worked a day in his life, and still lives in the house my parents left him (they're both dead now).

At least I think he does. I haven't talked to that loser in years
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Old 03-13-2024, 09:24 AM
 
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How can you leave home at 17 when you’re barely out of high school at that age?

I never felt that was normal, even decades ago.
{shrug} started working part time my senior year. After graduation, found a full time job. First apartment was $90 a month - 2 bed, 1 bath in a nice suburb.

It was doable if you had the will to do it.
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