Airport executive shot in firefight with federal agents at his home in Arkansas (heroin, March)
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They also raided Adams in NYC and some of his administration with search warrants for property at their homes.
They didn't go in there with guns blaring or when it was dark.
Favors for some and death for others ?
If you're the feds, and you have a search warrant to find and confiscate allegedly illegal weapons, where do you go? To someone's office, where those weapons aren't, or do you go to the property where you have info the weapons are kept? Do you preannounce you're coming to someone who has stockpiled numerous firearms and ammunition and who might, just might, be a danger, if/when confronted?
Did this agency follow their normal protocol in executing this warrant? If no, what parts of their protocol did they break?
Because it was a search warrant for his property (i.e. at his home), not an arrest warrant.
If the ATF determines he is a risk of any sort, he can be detained anywhere they want to detain him safely with diminished risk to the public and officers, and then execute the search warrant on his home. The search can be timed to happen seconds after he is known to be safely detained. LE perform timed multi point detention/raids (mostly for drugs) like this all the time.
The ATF likely underestimated his response to their approach to his house (and all the weapons and ammo he had in there).
If you're the feds, and you have a search warrant to find and confiscate allegedly illegal weapons, where do you go? To someone's office, where those weapons aren't, or do you go to the property where you have info the weapons are kept? Do you preannounce you're coming to someone who has stockpiled numerous firearms and ammunition and who might, just might, be a danger, if/when confronted?
Did this agency follow their normal protocol in executing this warrant? If no, what parts of their protocol did they break?
They could have waited until he left his house and was at work. No confrontation.
And no one let them in, they busted in themselves - could have done the same with no one in the house.
They could have waited until he left his house and was at work. No confrontation.
And no one let them in, they busted in themselves - could have done the same with no one in the house.
I think it's important to know what the ATF protocol is, that's what they have to follow. Others' opinions may be interesting, but they have no relevance.
If the ATF determines he is a risk of any sort, he can be detained anywhere they want to detain him safely with diminished risk to the public and officers, and then execute the search warrant on his home. The search can be timed to happen seconds after he is known to be safely detained. LE perform timed multi point detention/raids (mostly for drugs) like this all the time.
The ATF likely underestimated his response to their approach to his house (and all the weapons and ammo he had in there).
I think this is a situation like many, where Interweb posters don't know what ATF determined, what info they had, don't know what their protocol is, don't know if protocol was followed, etc. I certainly don't know, and neither does anyone else here.
They also raided Adams in NYC and some of his administration with search warrants for property at their homes.
They didn't go in there with guns blaring or when it was dark.
Favors for some and death for others ?
If you were present please elaborate. Only thing you see on the videos are the property custodians/ agents coming in to collect the items or property. I guarantee there was a police knock with armed folks earlier that day. Anyone can start shooting for any reason, so you go prepared. It’s standard.
I think it's important to know what the ATF protocol is, that's what they have to follow. Others' opinions may be interesting, but they have no relevance.
If the "protocol" is unfairly dangerous to the person being served or other members of the public, does that make it OK? Just because the Feds normally do something a certain way doesn't necessarily make it right. The Feds' procedures should ALWAYS be under review to see if their goals can be accomplished in a safer manner for all involved while still preserving evidence for possible trial usage.
I don't think it likely that the guy was going to be able to flush the guns down the toilet. Nor would it make any sense for the guy to attempt to destroy any paper documents since that's what the Feds' complaint was to begin with... that he wasn't properly documenting his sales activity as required by law.
I think this is a situation like many, where Interweb posters don't know what ATF determined, what info they had, don't know what their protocol is, don't know if protocol was followed, etc. I certainly don't know, and neither does anyone else here.
Protocols are pretty consistent across agencies and other police departments. Not all are internet posters with out any personal experience. If protocol was followed or not only the body cams and investigators will determine that. Has ATF put out a press release?
I think this is a situation like many, where Interweb posters don't know what ATF determined, what info they had, don't know what their protocol is, don't know if protocol was followed, etc. I certainly don't know, and neither does anyone else here.
Protocol would involve assessing risk and threat for any given situation. Like serving a guy they have publicly stated have good reason to suspect he is armed up and has no compulsions about breaking the law regarding firearms.
Are you, fellow interweb poster, savvy to typical ATF protocol?
This looks like the ATF effed up in this case.
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