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Old 03-21-2024, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal View Post
Read em and weep. EPA's new tailpipe emissions rules will virtually kill off new gas fueled motor vehicles.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/20/12390...-emissions-evs
I wonder if the presidential limo and all the other limos the Secret, don't know what is so secret about them, Service etc,. are EVs?

If not, why NOT?

What is that old saying, "practice what you preach"!

And I guess ole joe will EVER b able to drive his 'vette anymore.

 
Old 03-21-2024, 09:09 AM
 
Location: MN
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meanwhile in the real world....

China keeps building more coal plants as fast as they can.....and increasing their CO2 emissions as fast as they can

the vast majority of CO2 now comes from China...over twice as much as any other country including the USA

how do you spell SCAM?......
A friend played professional hockey in the European/Russian KHL league (one step below NHL). In 2016 they played in a random city in China, said nobody wanted to be there. The average lifespan of a local was 43, nonstop polluting industrial chimneys as far as he could see. The team brought all their own water, no players showered at rink or hotel for the two games they played. Said it was beyond hell being there. He mentioned if he was traded there, he would quit playing and not report, zero chance he would have had his family live there if it had happened.

The following season they played in another city in China that every vehicle was an EV. Said it was super quiet downtown, really weird he mentioned.

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Old 03-21-2024, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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A friend played professional hockey in the European/Russian KHL league (one step below NHL). In 2016 they played in a random city in China, said nobody wanted to be there. The average lifespan of a local was 43, nonstop polluting industrial chimneys as far as he could see. The team brought all their own water, no players showered at rink or hotel for the two games they played. Said it was beyond hell being there. He mentioned if he was traded there, he would quit playing and not report, zero chance he would have had his family live there if it had happened.

The following season they played in another city in China that every vehicle was an EV. Said it was super quiet downtown, really weird he mentioned.
That's because the prison guards running China have eyes, ears, and cameras everywhere, and offenders are dealt with harshly.
 
Old 03-21-2024, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What is the plan to improve charging infrastructure in a country as large as ours? And improve it at a very fast rate? It's not as simple as small European countries. Until then, most people will not be ready to switch to EVs. It doesn't matter if most people drive less than 20 miles a day. It's all about perception, the options and freedom.
 
Old 03-21-2024, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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No one is going to comply. I live in an ultra liberal state that already mandated it... about 97% of cars are gas powered.

When they get to the date and 96% of cars are gas powered they will just change the rule.
LOL, no one will comply...have you not been paying attention?

They will make it so hard for you to keep your ICE vehicle that you will give it up and ride a bicycle instead.

UAW workers better wake up as well...if you can afford one EV, then that's all you'll have. Sales will drop significantly.

The government already tested the "cash for clunkers" program. They may be nice and start one for ICE, before they totally ban them. It would not be hard to tax the crap out of them or just not let you register it the next year. City centers proposing and implementing complete ICE bans on certain roads include Oslo, London, Amsterdam, and Copenhagen (among others). It will grow from there.
 
Old 03-21-2024, 11:54 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The thread title does not match what the article says. I bet few, if any, actually read the linked article.
the thread title is an accurate reflection of the reality of this move by xoe's EPA.
 
Old 03-21-2024, 11:56 AM
 
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From your link:

"The EPA rules are not written as an EV mandate or a ban on the sale of gas cars
, like some states and other countries have adopted. Instead, the EPA sets standards that apply across an entire fleet — meaning an automaker still can make vehicles with higher emissions, as long as they also make enough very low or zero-emission vehicles that it averages out."
Ok, so for less popular sized etc. vehicles that have great gas mileage they will likely be sold near or below cost....while other vehicles have substantial mark-ups....basically pick-ups, SUV's and so forth which means the bulk of work vehicles.
 
Old 03-21-2024, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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The problem is the liberal media will purposely not cover this extensively so that most people won't even though its taking place. Just like the government quietly added all the restrictions on light bulbs, dishwashers, clothes dryers, AC units and gas stoves. They have us all fixated on racial division and on foreign events in Ukraine, Gaza, Haiti, drama with the British royal family, Trump's lawsuits, Taylor Swift drama, etc when its stuff that this that actually has the greatest impact on our everyday life.
Exactly! The agenda in action. No wonder they have to erase history, as history teaches us that we are on the path to destruction as a nation, and everything we have worked for, fought for and died for will be flushed down the liberal toilet!

https://www.heritage.org/progressivi...cans-can-fight
 
Old 03-21-2024, 12:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal View Post
Read em and weep. EPA's new tailpipe emissions rules will virtually kill off new gas fueled motor vehicles.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/20/12390...-emissions-evs
Remember this in November. Do not let these people win!
 
Old 03-21-2024, 12:03 PM
 
Location: MN
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Biden owns a 67 Corvette, a EV Ford Lightning, and a gas powered Suburban. Come on man, you want 56% EV’s by 2030 and you personally only own 33%.
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