Maryland: Ship hits Francis Scott Key Bridge causing it to collapse (wisdom, school)
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Your right 20 years of experience in navigation, transit and mooring in Chesapeake Bay ports have no bearing on this. Multiple posters with experience besides me have stated that this was an accident, but you hell bent that this is some "cockamamie stories".
Believe what you want because even if the NTSB report was out you would still believe whatever garbage you found on the internet. Try reading Dutton’s Nautical Navigation and get some factual information, I quit.
Whatever the NTSB concludes, it probably won’t eclipse the findings of NIST, and the melting steel twin towers. Lots of folks believe a lot of brain dead nonsense, and will die dumber than the day they were born.
And you will no doubt continue to believe whatever garbage the authorities choose to feed you, armed with links to all of the fact checker sites at your finger tips.
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Whatever the NTSB concludes, it probably won’t eclipse the findings of NIST, and the melting steel twin towers. Lots of folks believe a lot of brain dead nonsense, and will die dumber than the day they were born.
And you will no doubt continue to believe whatever garbage the authorities choose to feed you, armed with links to all of the fact checker sites at your finger tips.
Your statement "Senior Conspiracy Theorist" fits you, enjoy the kool-aid.......
Apparently, the full power was in reverse. The ship actually slowed down from that point. The problem was that in reverse, the ship's bow would turn to starboard due to the the rotation of the prop (the paddle effect) and of course, there would be no flow across the rudder so it would not work.
I’m not sure what picture you’re trying to paint here, but you can’t have your cake and eat it too, buddy. You gotta stick with the whole story, and not pick the parts you like, discarding the others. This ain’t a buffet.
The first point I would challenge is the claim that the ship slowed down. There is zero evidence of that actually happening. The videos certainly don’t show a slow down from the point where the ship turns starboard until it completes its turn and is now on its new heading straight toward the pier. There was no visible slowing of the ship’s movement throughout that maneuver.
Secondly, the loss of power occurred twice in the span of 4 minutes or so. There would be no possible reversing at the point of the first power outage, nor any reason to. And there would be no reason to reverse at any point thereafter until the ship had completed the starboard turn which placed it on its direct collision course with bridge. So when did this procedure to reverse thrust take place? But more importantly, why would the captain issue a reverse order, if doing so would cause the hard starboard movement toward the bridge pier, as you seem to insinuate is such a predictable consequence of that action? Are you suggesting that both the Master and Pilot are so incompetent that they would have made such an error? Because this catastrophe couldn’t have happened except for the dramatic turn starboard which made the collision possible. Had the ship not made that hard starboard turn, it would have missed that pier completely.
All in all, there is nothing about the narrative that makes sense, as we have several elements of the story so far that are in direct conflict with what we see on the videos, and in truth, some elements are in conflict with each other. This of course is not what you’d see in an organic event. Those conflicts would not exist, unless the story is a fabrication.
So all of these conflicting claims are indicative of one big fat lie layered on top of other big fat lies. Power loss caused loss of navigation, and loss of engine power? Or was it no loss of engine power, but a reversal of engine thrust which caused the navigation change? It can’t be both.
But what we do know is that two power outages resulted in the loss of sensor data being sent to the VDR which would tell us the engine power status, and rudder positions at these critical stages.
Your statement "Senior Conspiracy Theorist" fits you, enjoy the kool-aid.......
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again … I’m always on the lookout for new conspiracy theories, since all of my old ones have now come true.
technically that could be true as the admin can order the few surviving mills in the US to tool up and switch to 'weathering steel' (a special steel alloy designed in the US and once exclusive to the US that is suitable for STEEL bridges - hence my 'Ambridge' comment. not iron, not concrete.)
My point stands, we at present do not make this stuff domestically in any reasonable volume. I wish we would, but we dont and wont. IIRC the last large steel bridge was the seismic strengthening/rebuild of the SF bay bridge - at which point 75%-ish was domestic - 17 years ago (2007). 2009-2016 we closed most of the those plants now giving us:
Note the point is not that we can/cannot ultimately build it or make it, its was to refute those who said it will be done in a year or so, citing as evidence projects done almost 100 years ago in the steel empire of the planet. <---no factors that exist at present.
And mind you, I am not lumping ALL steel as STEEL. no one should.
'Bridge steel' is completely different from 'washing machine' steel or 'chevy silverado' steel or even 'now cancelled or delayed new aircraft carrier hull plating' steel. Like I said: "Ambridge". lookitup.
Yeah, they will not build an entire bridge of US steel. Even since I was involved in a bridge project (had Fed funds/Buy America) most of the steel came from Canada and since then there are even fewer domestic steel plants. I did look that up. On another project it was Spanish steel.
A channel has been opened to aid in demolition of the wreckage. Another is slated to open in the next few days to resume some shipping, although it's going to be fairly shallow.
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again … I’m always on the lookout for new conspiracy theories, since all of my old ones have now come true.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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