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Old Yesterday, 12:50 AM
 
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This story makes no sense.
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Old Yesterday, 02:40 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This story makes no sense.
Welcome to the world of modern journalism.
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Old Yesterday, 03:46 AM
 
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This story makes no sense.

Because it's a ridiculous stretch. Two separate things are happening here.

1. The City does need to find cash to deal with an influx of migrants. Perhaps that even triggered department heads to see where they are wasting money within their budgets.

2. Quite separately, this individual was on his 5th year of light duty after failing to medically qualify to return to even the fire academy. The city doesn't string along people on light duty forever, especially for what is likely considered a non-occupational illness, perhaps one that they could argue was not initially disclosed (perhaps the individual didn't know or have any previous symptoms). He was going to be let go regardless of whatever other budgetary issues the city was facing.

The Post and union took these two unrelated events are are trying to use them to paint a picture about the state of the city, and making a weak case at best.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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This story makes no sense.
It's the New York Post. You almost expect the article's conclusions to be unrelated to the actual facts and occurrences.
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Because it's a ridiculous stretch. Two separate things are happening here.

1. The City does need to find cash to deal with an influx of migrants. Perhaps that even triggered department heads to see where they are wasting money within their budgets.
The city was cutting departments across the board - police, fire, education, sanitation, etc. The budget for migrant services also was cut.

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The Post and union took these two unrelated events are are trying to use them to paint a picture about the state of the city, and making a weak case at best.
Yep.
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Old Yesterday, 08:57 AM
 
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It could be the vaxx that killed him. From that aspect it would have everything to do with his being fired and subsequently dying. Except that he had a heart attack in 2019 which was before the vaxx but still, the question of his vaxx status is valid - it just doesn't seem to be the answer. At least, I don't think it is. Although, I had chest pains for two years following the vaxx. But no, to me the fact that he had a heart attack in 2019 indicates that he had general health issues.

He could have been a higher risk of heart problems from the shots since he already was having problems.
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Old Yesterday, 09:22 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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It's the New York Post. You almost expect the article's conclusions to be unrelated to the actual facts and occurrences.

The city was cutting departments across the board - police, fire, education, sanitation, etc. The budget for migrant services also was cut.

Yep.
Seems Adams is blaming the "migrant crisis" and says it's going to get worse, while others are claiming that he's wrong for blaming the illegals... and you're upset at the NYP for reporting it? Besides, everyone already knows that NYC is having financial problems because of the illegals.


Despite the glaring cuts, Hizzoner — whose office only took a $8,000 hit for travel allowance this year — still hailed his plan and claimed it would have “minimal disruption” to city-wide services.

“To balance the budget as the law requires, every city agency dug into their own budget to find savings, with minimal disruption to services,” Adams said in a statement.

“And while we pulled it off this time, make no mistake: Migrant costs are going up, tax revenue growth is slowing, and COVID stimulus funding is drying up.”

The City Council approved the 2024 budget back in June but it failed to account for the rising costs of the migrant crisis. The changes to this fiscal year’s budget, which ends June 30, 2024, will go to the council next week for approval.

The fresh cuts are in response to Adams forcing all city departments to find an initial 5% to slash from their budgets in a bid to combat the ever-growing costs of the migrant crisis, which he has estimated to set the city back $12 billion over the next three fiscal years.

Hizzoner has already warned an additional two cuts, totaling 10%, might be on the cards too as the crisis escalates.


https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/metro/...c-budget-cuts/
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Old Yesterday, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yep. If he hadn't been fired then his wife and two young children wouldn't be in the hardship that they're in now. All due to NYC bending over for illegals and the heck with citizens.
So people who can no longer perform their jobs should be kept on the payroll so that their families can get a 600k death benefit? Can you imagine the implications of that if we applied it to all workers?
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Old Yesterday, 09:31 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Apparently, he had a heart attack in 2019 while he was still in the Fire Academy. And he was on desk duty before he was fired. If he served as an actual firemen, it wasn't for long.



Clearly, the city was trying to save money, but I'm not sure I blame them in this case.

And the part about "leaving his family with nothing despite his years of service?" What service? He was in the academy in 2019 and then on desk duty for who knows how long. Three years actual service? Someone should get full benefits after three years of service?

I'm not trying to sound callous, but after that heart attack in the academy, why was he hired? It is a very physical job.
Not saving money, diverting it to pay for the living expenses of the illegal aliens parked in NY.
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Old Yesterday, 09:34 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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So people who can no longer perform their jobs should be kept on the payroll so that their families can get a 600k death benefit? Can you imagine the implications of that if we applied it to all workers?
You're saying that he was getting paid to sit at home and do nothing?
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Old Yesterday, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Actually, it appears that he was fired in favor of illegals.

Not everyone who works for the fire department fights fires. He'd had a desk job and he was doing his job.
Firefighters are paid far more than staff doing 'desk jobs'.
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