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Not to mention all the greenhouse gases that will be produced to build the trillion dollar infrastructure, manufacture the trains and support to run the trains, and all the people who will keep the trains running and technicians and custodians to perform maintenance.
Instead of wearing out a car driving Los Angeles <-> Las Vegas, you should be able to get a small-range $5,000 electric car to drive around a city. Instead of driving to Las Vegas, you'll be able to get on a train.
Highways to Las Vegas may have tolls - $1 per mile like in Japan. You'll have a pay-per-mile blackbox in your car.
Then, the population will be as thin as in Japan - the Japanese have to walk a lot. It may cut healthcare costs.
In 2008, the CA politicians and their cronies forgot to mention that, now didn't they?
They sold it as "running by 2020, cost = $33 billion." They said nothing about NIMBYs, project delays and cost overruns, etc. They sold snake oil and lies.
Anybody paying attention knew they were lying. Opponents of the Prop 1A that authorized HSR did a fine job of illustrating these lies, but the mass of California voters ignored them and passed Prop 1A anyway.
What does that tell you about California voters? Stuck on stupid.
In 2008, the CA politicians and their cronies forgot to mention that, now didn't they?
They sold it as "running by 2020, cost = $33 billion." They said nothing about NIMBYs, project delays and cost overruns, etc. They sold snake oil and lies.
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In 2008, California voters passed
Proposition 1A (Prop 1A) that
provided legal guidelines and $9.95 billion in general obligation
bonds for the California high-
speed rail program and related
transportation projects.
It cost $0.5 billion to build the 6th Steet Bridge in LA.
The high-speed rail needs a long tunnel to cut through the mountains on the way to LA. The costs will be enormous.
There are no NIMBYs in China unlike in some other countries.
When the Chinese decide to build a rail, they easily build it even through densely populated areas demolishing everything on its way.
I would say the lack of property rights in China is the primary factor in the speed in which they can build infrastructure projects.
I would say the lack of property rights in China is the primary factor in the speed in which they can build infrastructure projects.
Government tyranny is evil, but it allows for expediency. It is amazing how fast a tyrant can build things when all opposition is silenced or imprisoned.
It cost $0.5 billion to build the 6th Steet Bridge in LA.
It cost that much to build one high school in a Bay Area suburb recently, which is close to what the City of Los Angeles spent for a large high school educational complex in 2010. And that 2010 amount (near $600 million) was insane at the time.
We can't just build utilitarian schools anymore like we did for the Boomers. Now the districts insist on the best facilities and technology; rare hardwoods and marble. Every high school is built like a private college.
And California taxpayers gladly pass the bond measures to do it. Californians are the primary reason why California is screwed up.
Government tyranny is evil, but it allows for expediency. It is amazing how fast a tyrant can build things when all opposition is silenced or imprisoned.
If the daily mail article is correct (not leaving out facts) then that is absurd. 11 billion for that? I’m a fan of commuter trains and spending money on them, but this is just ridiculous if true.
If the daily mail article is correct (not leaving out facts) then that is absurd. 11 billion for that? I’m a fan of commuter trains and spending money on them, but this is just ridiculous if true.
The article is certainly not correct.
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