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Old 05-18-2024, 08:55 PM
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Except the Chinese EVs are selling like hotcakes around the world, and China has no plans to even come to the US...so....
BYD in Mexico. https://electrek.co/2023/09/22/byds-...north-america/

And Canada. https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/arti...ant-in-canada/
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Old 05-18-2024, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Except the Chinese EVs are selling like hotcakes around the world, and China has no plans to even come to the US...so....
BYD in California:
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Over 750 unionized employees work together to build battery electric buses and motor coaches at BYD's 556,000 square foot manufacturing facility in Lancaster, California.
https://en.byd.com/bus
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Old 05-18-2024, 10:54 PM
 
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Chinese EV's sell for about $12K (USD)
The BYD Seagull starts at $9,700 for the model with the 190 mile range.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull

Then, you're supposed to get $7,500 from the government for saving the planet.
The price could've been very affordable.
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Old 05-18-2024, 11:28 PM
 
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I think the tariffs are just an excuse to buy time. Naturally China can produce cheaper than the west and people would rather buy from them. China is destined to what happened to Germany and Japan.

Coal and cheap energy made the west great places to develop and live. That is why the rules need to keep changing, so others don't catch up. And so we have climate change and all the policies that come with it.

I am just wondering how long this will go on: attacking Chinese companies like Huawei, the car industries, etc. We know where it ends. A war the kind we have never seen before to destroy the competition and finally reconstruct in US terms. Of course we will never hear the truth, I can already see the propaganda. The fight is against an aggressive and evil state lead by the ccp, and it is our duty to stop them and show them our democratic values.
People keeping bringing up Japan as an example of the road that China is heading. This is just wishful thinking and trying to correlate things that have nothing in common. Japan biggest flaw was that its economy was pegged (and still is to large degree) to Western powers. So the moment Japan "got to big" it was cut down to size. See the Plaza accords.

You are right about a desire to defeat China, but I can't see a war happening (at least not a direct one). The Chinese military is capable of repelling any U.S. invasion. We can't use another country to attack them for us. Then there is the issue of Nukes.
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Old 05-18-2024, 11:31 PM
 
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To me this move basically says "we don't know what else to do." This is what I feared with the U.S./China competition. We here in the U.S. are going to have to pay more or miss out. I guess the environment all of sudden doesn't matter. Meanwhile the rest of the world will have these really neat products that we can only look at and go wow.
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Old 05-19-2024, 03:30 AM
 
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I checked newegg.

It seems all decent video cards have been sold out.

They are pretty expensive as is, and the prices will increase twofold now.
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Old Yesterday, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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There are ways around the tariffs, and the tariffs could end up hitting the US in the long term.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOreJAyfUUU
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Old Today, 05:47 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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One of the reasons BYD is so cheap- their assembly line is 97% automated
The UAW won major concessions to protect their manual jobs along with a 45% raise

People should not wonder why autos in the US cost so much
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