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If you want to argue some case for fetal rights, you will have to establish first the means by which a fetus gains the right -- denied to all others -- to invade, occupy, and enslave the established personal domains of other fully qualified individuals. You do not have a case that will establish that argument.
You are actually claiming that a baby invades, occupies and enslaves a personal domain of a woman...that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. First off, the baby doesn't just show up...the actions of the woman facilitate the creation of the baby...and a woman's body is not a domain. Looks like more of the "a baby is a parasite" argument to me and further shows your view of humanity.
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Originally Posted by saganista
Meanwhile, unless you mean to compel each and every woman to bear all of the 20-25 children that she could conceivably bear over a reproductive lifetime, some means of selection between the available candidates will be called for. In considering such a means, into whose hands would you place the primary decision-making powers?
And now you claim that all women would have 20-25 children in their lifetime...
men have no choice in this matter. yes, they can choose to use a condom. but once they get a girl pregnant, the time for choice ends. then it's ALL about the womans right. men should have the RIGHT to walk away from a pregnancy too with no financial obligation. because whether or not you wish to believe it, there are deceptive women out there just looking to get knocked up and lie about taking birth control. that can ruin a mans life.
Men do have a RIGHT to walk away from a pregnancy with no financial obligation. It's called CELIBACY, and it really works!
In case noone already mentioned it in this thread, regular birth control pills can be used as emergency contraceptives when the first dose is administered within 120 hours after sex. A second dose is required. Contact planned parenthood for a list of which brands can be used or google "birth control pills" + "emergency contraception"
Here’s a link to a google search on pro-life people who refuse to dispense birth-control or morning after pills.. Pick any of the articles, they all say the same thing.
No need for any response Okie, I won't be seeing it.
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Camping, that was the generic you, no one specific. I usually use names when I'm responding to someone directly.
When people, and I do believe that one or more may have posted on this thread or one of the other 1/2 dozen reproductive rights threads don't believe in birth control or abortion, I definitely see brood mare status for women. I find it amazingly controlling. I also find it more interesting that most of the people who support no repro choices for women are men.
Just because there are a few people on the fringe who won't sell birth control doesn't mean people who are against late-term abortion want women to be breeders.
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Reason: personal attack
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Camping, that was the generic you, no one specific. I usually use names when I'm responding to someone directly.
When people, and I do believe that one or more may have posted on this thread or one of the other 1/2 dozen reproductive rights threads don't believe in birth control or abortion, I definitely see brood mare status for women. I find it amazingly controlling. I also find it more interesting that most of the people who support no repro choices for women are men.
On that you and I agree......whenever there is subjegation of women by withholding the ability to use birth control it is usually done by men and religion.
Any man who is against a woman's right to chose should be required to get a vasectomy....and I bet there's plenty who haven't ...how irresponsible !!!!!!!!
"...A federal court ruled against Planned Parenthood and rejected an injunction against a state law requiring doctors to tell women seeking abortions that they may face serious medical conditions and will "terminate the life of a whole, separate, unique, living human being."..."
Why don't you take your concern and channel it into STD/AIDS prevention, sex ed in middle and high schools, free condom distribution/education, and advocating for the availability of Emergency Contraception? If you care so much, that would make a bigger difference.
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