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Crap prison. Eating steaks and from buffets are crap? Having special foods brought in so they can have their type of foods?
Give me a break, the ones released have gone back to kill our soldiers in Iraq.
Do you think our enemies would be allowing them to roam free with excercise rooms, buffets, etc NO they wouldnt.
What is wrong with people, these people are NOT AMERICAN citizens and have NO rights as citizens.
Stop using your political sides to make choices for our enemies. This is NOT a dem or rep thing, they are prisoners and need to be treated no better then our criminals in our system.
Our supreme court should be ashamed of themselves. Come on Ginsbger thinks that foreign law applies to her decisions, what does that tell you?
They should get no rights other then a square cell and 3 meals a day, no buffets, no special foods, no special clothing, nothing.
Go ahead and give them your rights as Americans and you will pay the price.
American citizens are innocent until proven guilty, enemies are guilty until proven innocent and should be treated as such.
Again, peoples brains are clogged for their hatred of Bush and again those same people are going to put us in a bad position with this looney thought. I know you all hate Bush so bad that you want to hand these criminals our rights? If they are found guilty maybe we can ship all those who want to give them your rights to gitmo so you can be with them.
HELLO????????? MOD CUT there are INNOCENT people that have been locked up in there for years. No rights, NONE, no communication w/family, friends. Yeah, I'll set you in that situation & see how well you acclimate to that. And I haven't made it a dem/rep issue at all, again did you read my post??? This has to do w/innocent people getting thrown in prison because our lovely administration (yep this is where I insert politics) looked at their name or the color of their skin & made an assumption. That is unacceptable.
Last edited by NewToCA; 06-13-2008 at 08:14 PM..
Reason: personal attack
I thank you for the personal attack, however I believe you are misled on many things. The terrorists held at Gitmo are a threat to the US much the way that several captured Nazis were here in WW2. Those Nazis were executed, but today we have crackpot lib lawyers running down to protect those who have tried to cause harm to our nation. Thank you for proving my point about anti American commies who deficate on the flag far left libs. Threatened? If some domestic terrorist comes on my property and tries to harm me, I would shoot him! Thank GOD for the 2nd amendment, one of the few rights the libs have not been able to come close to taking!
Shoot with prejudice against anyone who disagrees with your dogma, and then claim victim? MOD CUT Someone should evaluate you for that weapons permit if you're this irresponsible and oblivious.
If our constitution and bill or rights bothers you so much, perhaps you should find yourself another country that's more to your taste. No word out of your mouth reveals comprehenion about true civics, and your selective clinging to a singular right at the expense of all others is as much blasphemy as shooting in the name of jesus.
Last edited by NewToCA; 06-13-2008 at 08:19 PM..
Reason: personal attack
Gee, wonder why all these wing nuts are crawling out from a rock without any faith in justice system. They're either guilty or not guilty PERIOD. If you're afraid they're innocent, I'd say you have right to be afraid now because of the way you've denied our own laws to work.
Instead, you signed off on being a facist nation, override democracy the first chance you got for a false sense of security, use the constitution for toilet paper just like your hero Bush. Lying to yourselves only makes you a fool longer than you ever had to be.
Gee, wonder why all these wing nuts are crawling out from a rock without any faith in justice system. They're either guilty or not guilty PERIOD. If you're afraid they're innocent, I'd say you have right to be afraid now because of the way you've denied our own laws to work.
Instead, you signed off on being a facist nation, override democracy the first chance you got for a false sense of security, use the constitution for toilet paper just like your hero Bush. Lying to yourselves only makes you a fool longer than you ever had to be.
You fail to see the difference between war and a speeding ticket. Do really want our soldiers to be in the middle of the battlefield, taping off a section to take pictures, fingerprints, and pick up spent rounds to match DNA with the guy that he just captured? There has been a long history of military tribunals for this purpose.
It gets circular when the agreement spells out who it does not apply to and then is used in their defense.
What the convention calls for is tribunals as you previously stated. Our courts blocked our tirbunals and granted access to civilian courts which IMO is the wrong decision.
Our civilian courts determined that the tribunals were going to be kangaroo courts. The lead military prosecutor resigned in disgust and is now appearing for the defense. The senior military convening officer has been removed for tampering with the legal process.
Regardless of that, these prisoners are required to be treated as POWs until a legal determination has been affirmed that they are not covered POWs. It hasn't ever happened. And they haven't ever been afforded those protections.
You fail to see the difference between war and a speeding ticket. Do really want our soldiers to be in the middle of the battlefield, taping off a section to take pictures, fingerprints, and pick up spent rounds to match DNA with the guy that he just captured? There has been a long history of military tribunals for this purpose.
I have no problems with them having tribunals. If the tribunals were going to be kangaroo courts, then there should be standards and oversight. I don't think they should be a joke. I do think that bringing them into civilian courts is a mistake.
I have no problems with them having tribunals. If the tribunals were going to be kangaroo courts, then there should be standards and oversight. I don't think they should be a joke. I do think that bringing them into civilian courts is a mistake.
Republican screw up. The military was all set to use its existing system
The prisoners at Guantanamo have very few rights.
They are not enlisted uniformed combatants engaged in lawful conduct of warfare.
They are not protected under the Geneva Conventions or any other regulation governing the conduct of warfare.
What they are is terrorists, criminals of the lowest order and basically the military can try, convict and punish them as necessary.
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