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View Poll Results: Democrats are calling for nationalization of oil. Do you feel the government should also nationaliz
Yes 23 26.74%
No 26 30.23%
No. That is communism 35 40.70%
Not Sure 2 2.33%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-02-2008, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Tha' Holler
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Yeah, $5 grand will pay for a lot of gas, right now, even over a five year period. I still don't take to a car that runs half-and-half (gas/battery). That's what is not appealing to me.
Oh, no doubt. As long as we keep the end goal in mind, energy independence, things like the volt are a step in the right direction. Gas, even with the price above 4 dollars, still has the most bang for the proverbial buck.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:17 PM
 
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I wonder if the voting on the two different "no" options is based on age.

Not all Americans know much about what communism is all about. The older generations would know more about communism.
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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This is a great video detailing our problems and why we have them. LISTEN to Boone. He knows about what he speaks. Nationalization IS NOT THE WAY. Thats been tried in the past. Its time to innovate into the future.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:21 PM
 
Location: PA
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I wonder if the voting on the two different "no" options is based on age.

Not all Americans know much about what communism is all about. The older generations would know more about communism.


Yeah I believe that is the goal of the school system to teach the younger crowd nothing about communism they are to busy teaching them socialism first.
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Old 07-08-2008, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Tha' Holler
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Yeah I believe that is the goal of the school system to teach the younger crowd nothing about communism they are to busy teaching them socialism first.
Sure, this is probably true. I think for the most part, "the end of history" feeling that came with the fall of the Soviets is still around. Most people today that espouse Communist ideals, would never actually call themselves Communists, but "revolutionaries", because they know Communism is a non-starter with most people. As it should be. I think the majority of people would much prefer the Capitalist system to produce, and then allow our benevolent government stewards to distribute that production among the masses. Just look at those wanting to nationalize oil on this thread. My personal favorite when listening to pinkos is when they say, "The Soviets were never communist, but state capitalists. They were the guinea pigs, so we'll know how to correct their mistakes the next time around." Right, as if the same conditions that bred Stalin and the Oligarchs, and Castro, and Mao were inherent in their system.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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Nationalizing oil is the road to Socialism, Communism, and Fascism which all espouse the state over the people. Limited rights to the people which violates every definition of freedom. Oil first, then food and energy. Where would it end? When the government starts thinking for people, then people are doomed. True communism or socialism will never be attained as human nature gets in the way. The only saving grace to it all is that the socialist and communist states have never achieved success and have been overthrown by the people which is inevitable given their system of faults.
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:21 PM
 
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Will Electricity be on the take-over list?
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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Do you feel that every business/industry deserves to make profit except the oil industry? Either give it to all or take it all away. Fair is fair. High as it is, you don't see the gas shortages or long lines like in 1973-74, do you? Conserve fuel, reduce consumption, the price will go down. So China and India are in the fray now. Driving because we helped build their economies by killing our own. Whose fault is that? Most everyone including me.
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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I think nothing should be Nationalized in a free country.
Its a simple concept. Whats mine is mine, whats yours is yours & nothing belongs to the gov't.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Tha' Holler
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I think nothing should be Nationalized in a free country.
Its a simple concept. Whats mine is mine, whats yours is yours & nothing belongs to the gov't.
Indeed, its a very simple concept. Our political class tries to earn the public trust, however, by taking brave "stands" and "supporting" the "little guy". The end game is always more control, though. I think humanities collective nature is to control the outliers, whether those outliers fall on the success side, or the "poverty" side. It makes people feel better to think that no one is special and we're all in this together. With regards to our politicos acting in our best interest, though, I think Machiavelli said it best, "The great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances as though they were realities."
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