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Old 07-01-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Boise
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actually I think we would create less lasting hatred for us by using commando methods.Go get them,get out.Don't try and change a whole nation,it won't work but by just eliminating the immediate threat it sends a clear meassge to future foes.
I'm not a fan of violence. But I think I could agree with that. Thsi has just gotten way way out of hand. If Iraqi's haven't changed to a "paycheck-blowing-at-wal-mart" democracy after almost 100,000 deaths, maybe democracy isn't going to take with a gun to their head.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Hey, we've only had six-and-a-half years, give us a break.
Maybe if he owed the government some money they would catch him faster. If I owed $50 they would be at my door in a week.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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actually I think we would create less lasting hatred for us by using commando methods.Go get them,get out.Don't try and change a whole nation,it won't work but by just eliminating the immediate threat it sends a clear meassge to future foes.
Exactly what I said even BEFORE the invasion. Want to take out a dangerous lunatic, who's apparently capable of incinerating the whole region, and probably will, at his discretion? Is he also raping, oppressing, and murdering his own populace in distressing numbers?

FINE !...by all means, go get him....and then LEAVE. Forget the "bringing democracy to the good men and women"...etc etc etc. If these 'good folks' want democracy, they can install it. If they want help, they can request it.

What WE wanted, was to get rid of Saddam. That's what we should have done. Period.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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Find Bin Laden?

He lives in Hollywood doesn't he?
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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actually I think we would create less lasting hatred for us by using commando methods.Go get them,get out.Don't try and change a whole nation,it won't work but by just eliminating the immediate threat it sends a clear meassge to future foes.
surgical strikes are what works with terrorism, not cumbersome military arrangements. Is this not what special forces were made for in the first place?
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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I'm amazed that this did not get more play this winter. Maybe Butto was assinanted since she knew too much about Bin Laden (spoiling W's boogeyman):

Benazir Butto Said Bin Laden Is Dead..And You Still Trust The BBC ...Jan 14, 2008 ... Original clip... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiuF...eature=related .
forums.techguy.org/civilized-debate/671696-benazir-butto-said-bin-laden.html - 86k
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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actually I think we would create less lasting hatred for us by using commando methods.Go get them,get out.Don't try and change a whole nation,it won't work but by just eliminating the immediate threat it sends a clear meassge to future foes.
leaders do not want to see other leaders assassinated because then the it becomes more likely that they will be killed, Much better to send the great hoards of the unwashed out to fight the battle while the king sits in his counting house counting out his gold.
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:17 PM
 
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actually I think we would create less lasting hatred for us by using commando methods.Go get them,get out.Don't try and change a whole nation,it won't work but by just eliminating the immediate threat it sends a clear meassge to future foes.
I agree. Plus, it demonstrates that their leader is not invincible. I find it sad and disgusting that Bin Laden was already allowed to get away. If a US citizen killed one person, would the search for the killer ever stop, especially when we knew their identity? But kill thousands and it is okay? What kind of hypocrasy is that? I do not believe in vast and all-inclusive conspiracy theories, but this stinks somewhat that he was within their grasp and they chose to let him go.
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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So much for going anywhere anytime to catch the mastermind of the greatest terror attack in the US. I often think they are afraid to catch him for fear he knows too much about the Saudi relationship with the US government.

Its possible we never truly wanted to catch him .
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:49 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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surgical strikes are what works with terrorism, not cumbersome military arrangements. Is this not what special forces were made for in the first place?

Yes but SF has lost the element of surprise its been 6 yrs lol . Beards ,tans and all they stand out like sore thumbs in the area.

They have done all they could .
If Osama is in the Afghanistan mts or Pakistan pro Osama area any outsider coming is a dead man .

They have outposts with radio contact ,etc . SF wont catch him and again he can just as easily be in another area.
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