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Old 07-02-2008, 05:14 PM
 
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I'm quoting here: "How does putting a few words on money give anyone authority over religion?"
Beats me, dude. However, I can tell you how it constitutes an assumption of civil authority over religion. Can you tell us how it doesn't?
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Damn right. They want to cross-dress and pierce their uvula?

Fine.

I want God on my nickel.
Amen.
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:15 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Beats me, dude. However, I can tell you how it constitutes an assumption of civil authority over religion. Can you tell us how it doesn't?
Tell us how it does. I honestly dont see religions obeying Washington simply because of some words on money. Heck of a trick if it works.
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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No, but it is blessed by said "man in the sky", and it does not harm to acknowledge that.



Really! If that were the case, I'd think the government would be run a WHOLE lot better and more ethically than it is. Obviously God does NOT have any power in govt. decisions.

Why does it irk you that our money says "we" trust in God? Are you afraid people will call you a hypocrite just because you use money that says you DO trust in God? I doubt that'll be an issue.

I believe it's more a statement of good will towards our nation (i.e. "God Bless America" doesn't have to mean anything religious, it is a statement of goodwill and positive thoughts for our country)
Anyone who's ever read the bible wouldn't want 'god,' if they exist to have any power over anything much less the government considering how much an amoral abomination they are.

I don't think America was blessed by some invisible friend in the sky and I don't feel like acknowledging it since it seems like a ridiculous idea to me.

Would it irk you if instead of saying 'In God We Trust,' the money said, 'In Satan We Trust.' I doubt people will think your a hypocrite, but it's giving special place for devil worshippers in the public square. Satan is something that is considered the antithesis of God in Christianity, but if it is placed on money in the same kind of statement that god is then it is purporting that 'Satan' is this good entity which should be recognized and acknowledged as being to be looked up to even if someone doesn't believe in it. It's same with god, when the people place god in those kinds of phrases on the money then it's trying make uniformity in the sense to conform people to thinking that this one idea is right.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Clearly, America is blessed. Or it would not be the nation of freedoms, opportunity, and graciousness it is. And we are blessed to live here.

For all its faults, I doubt you can find a better nation to live in, all things considered.
Ireland? Switzerland? Norway?

Should I keep going? The USA was ranked #13

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/quality_of_life.pdf (broken link)
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:00 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Back to the original question...

Yes, the FED does have the authority to print "Don't Trust God" and infact has the authority to keep "In God We Trust" on our money. Regardless of my or your personal feelings about it. The FED is not owned by the government. It is an independent contractor within the government... like the USPS.

Since essentially they operate as a private company, they can printe " I Fuc*ing Love Bin Laden" on the money, and it would be perfectly legal. You may chose not to use the money, but they will not have violated any separation of church and state.

And I would like to point out that they will actually be removing the "In God We Trust" slogan from the face of coins. The new dollar coins will be the first to be printed without it. Instead, E Plurbus Unum, AND In God We Trust will be printed on the sides of the money. I actually like this appeasement.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Business/NYR10102151255_nr.jpeg (broken link)



I am an atheist, and I have wondered about such questions before.

Here is a link to more info about the FED:
FRB: FAQs: Federal Reserve System (http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm#5 - broken link)

I hope this satisfies the question.

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Old 07-03-2008, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I think the spirit of the thread is SHOULD the Fed put religious stuff on the currency.

If that's the case, I'd go with "trust in your god", as it implies tolerance instead of "in this one god we trust".
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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Tell us how...
Are you asking me to explain why Congress assuming the power to declare the American people's trust in God, constitutes an unconstitutional assumption of civil authority over religion?
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Are you asking me to explain why Congress assuming the power to declare the American people's trust in God, constitutes an unconstitutional assumption of civil authority over religion?
Congress is not incharge of the FED. The FED is an independent contractor for the government. They made the design for the money in America. We cannot blame this one on government, sorry.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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Are you asking me to explain why Congress assuming the power to declare the American people's trust in God, constitutes an unconstitutional assumption of civil authority over religion?
Yes. Its words on a coin. The money is legal tender for everyone ain't it?
You have I think a paranoid assumption of suppression by civil authority where its non existent.
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