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Old 07-13-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Aw Reads, I think you know as well as I do that, due to the nature of our society & how vicious it can be, most people would rather keep their homosexuality closed up than let people know about it. It takes a very brave person to come to terms w/it & let others know. I personally don't know of ANYONE who is homosexual & then "became" heterosexual. Me thinks if that were the case, the person truly is a homosexual but because of pressures on them, they denied it & choose to live as a heterosexual to avoid persecution.
But there is another possibility karfar, because I have personally been witness to it. When I was 19 I new a lesbian couple quite well that lived next door to my friend. They would party with us and everything was cool. But before long I heard a rumor that the one girl, we'll call here Beth, was cheating on the other girl with one of my friends. There was a big blowup at a party a little while later between the two and the truth came out that Beth was not a true lesbian, she had simply went in a new direction after her last failed boy/girl relationship. And since the other girl was quite mannish in stature and demeanor anyway, I guess that made the switch simpler. Point being she was hetero all along, just trying to be something she wasn't. It does happen.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:13 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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But there is another possibility karfar, because I have personally been witness to it. When I was 19 I new a lesbian couple quite well that lived next door to my friend. They would party with us and everything was cool. But before long I heard a rumor that the one girl, we'll call here Beth, was cheating on the other girl with one of my friends. There was a big blowup at a party a little while later between the two and the truth came out that Beth was not a true lesbian, she had simply went in a new direction after her last failed boy/girl relationship. And since the other girl was quite mannish in stature and demeanor anyway, I guess that made the switch simpler. Point being she was hetero all along, just trying to be something she wasn't. It does happen.
Ok, I will give you that one. Now, no disrespect to lesbians at all, however I have found that there are a few women out there who "like" to do the gay or bisexual thing & I think it's because it seems to be socially acceptable & men REALLY get off on two chicks getting it on. Now that being said, it is VERY unusual to find that w/men because our society has such a macho heterosexual nature that I don't know of any man who would pretend to be gay & then change direction.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:09 PM
 
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Ok, I will give you that one. Now, no disrespect to lesbians at all, however I have found that there are a few women out there who "like" to do the gay or bisexual thing & I think it's because it seems to be socially acceptable & men REALLY get off on two chicks getting it on. Now that being said, it is VERY unusual to find that w/men because our society has such a macho heterosexual nature that I don't know of any man who would pretend to be gay & then change direction.
Not saying you're wrong, but that's pretty extreme--pretending to be another orientation to get someone else's attention. And I think there's a song by one of those N*SYNC guys about it, which can't be a good thing. I haven't met a woman like that. Knock on wood.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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Not saying you're wrong, but that's pretty extreme--pretending to be another orientation to get someone else's attention. And I think there's a song by one of those N*SYNC guys about it, which can't be a good thing. I haven't met a woman like that. Knock on wood.
Oh I totally agree it's extreme. I think you'll see from my posts that I am completely acceptable towards homosexuality. I'm just commenting on what I've seen myself in bars & such. I don't think they're pretending to be gay, I think it's more pretending to be bisexual. But maybe I should stop because I think my post can be taken out of context & I can see being accused of being anti-homosexual which is so far away from what I think!
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Some people are bisexual, that doesn't mean they are pretending, that means they can be happy in a relationship with either people of the same sex or people of the opposite sex.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:00 PM
 
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But maybe I should stop because I think my post can be taken out of context & I can see being accused of being anti-homosexual which is so far away from what I think!
Nah, you're alright. The people who frequent this forum know you aren't homophobic and your post doesn't come off that way, anyway. Don't sweat it.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Earth
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But there is another possibility karfar, because I have personally been witness to it. When I was 19 I new a lesbian couple quite well that lived next door to my friend. They would party with us and everything was cool. But before long I heard a rumor that the one girl, we'll call here Beth, was cheating on the other girl with one of my friends. There was a big blowup at a party a little while later between the two and the truth came out that Beth was not a true lesbian, she had simply went in a new direction after her last failed boy/girl relationship. And since the other girl was quite mannish in stature and demeanor anyway, I guess that made the switch simpler. Point being she was hetero all along, just trying to be something she wasn't. It does happen.
So, she's bisexual and found it more comfortable to be with the opposite sex.
Oh, those false lesbians, shame on them all.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:07 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Some people are bisexual, that doesn't mean they are pretending, that means they can be happy in a relationship with either people of the same sex or people of the opposite sex.
No no no, I completely understand that. I'm just saying that there are instances of girls doing that just to get guys attention. Which is totally ridiculous, but you usually see it in younger girls.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:08 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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Not saying you're wrong, but that's pretty extreme--pretending to be another orientation to get someone else's attention. And I think there's a song by one of those N*SYNC guys about it, which can't be a good thing. I haven't met a woman like that. Knock on wood.
Well I have to say that I have seen this with younger females (teens and college aged) and it usually involves alcohol, a club, dance music, and an active "audience" of straight guys. It seems to be a show purely for titillation of the guys. My son (16) says that there are girls in his school that claim to be "bi" because they think guys "like it" even though they really have no sort of real relationships with other females. Maybe we have "Girls Gone Wild" and the like to thank for this?

Just because claiming to be "bi" is the new "fad" doesn't negate the very real experiences of gays and lesbians in the real world...for example, having the knowledge that if you aren't young and "hot" and decked out in a tank top and heels, the very act of walking down the street holding hands with your girlfriend could result in a beating rather than guys drooling and catcalling because it's their porn fantasy or whatever.

For that matter, are those who have these stories about someone "turning hetero" denying the reality of someone who is truly bisexually oriented? There are many who believe that sexuality is on a continuum, that it's not all as simple as black and white, straight or gay. Shades of gray and all that.

Having said all that, I don't think anyone, regardless of how "popular" the idea might be, could truly find themselves in a ROMANTIC or SEXUAL relationship with someone of the same sex while truly being "straight". If you can do the deed and like it, honey, you aren't straight. So beyond drunken same-sex kissing, it's probably more likely that you are BI or GAY and in denial about it.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:19 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Well I have to say that I have seen this with younger females (teens and college aged) and it usually involves alcohol, a club, dance music, and an active "audience" of straight guys. It seems to be a show purely for titillation of the guys. My son (16) says that there are girls in his school that claim to be "bi" because they think guys "like it" even though they really have no sort of real relationships with other females. Maybe we have "Girls Gone Wild" and the like to thank for this?

Just because claiming to be "bi" is the new "fad" doesn't negate the very real experiences of gays and lesbians in the real world...for example, having the knowledge that if you aren't young and "hot" and decked out in a tank top and heels, the very act of walking down the street holding hands with your girlfriend could result in a beating rather than guys drooling and catcalling because it's their porn fantasy or whatever.

For that matter, are those who have these stories about someone "turning hetero" denying the reality of someone who is truly bisexually oriented? There are many who believe that sexuality is on a continuum, that it's not all as simple as black and white, straight or gay. Shades of gray and all that.

Having said all that, I don't think anyone, regardless of how "popular" the idea might be, could truly find themselves in a ROMANTIC or SEXUAL relationship with someone of the same sex while truly being "straight". If you can do the deed and like it, honey, you aren't straight. So beyond drunken same-sex kissing, it's probably more likely that you are BI or GAY and in denial about it.
Dang, I just tried to give you rep but I must of course spread it around! Bah!!!! But thank you for the post, you put it in better words than I could say. I think others will understand the difference....I hope!
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