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Old 07-22-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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Don't blame women for wanting the freedom to do exactly what a man can. The women's movement opened up and continues to open up new opportunities for women historically relegated and restricted to certain gender roles. Today, a woman can be a doctor, lawyer, astronaut, or even the President. This wasn't true 60 years ago.

The problem is that integrating work and family regardless of gender is difficult. And it's difficult for a reason: our policies make it difficult to integrate the two. What policies would help us "focus on the family?" Let's have greater availability of flex-time scheduling, paid-leave for family or medical emergencies, longer vacations, shorter work-weeks, and other family-first measures.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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Commish, I agree to a point. I'm single and pick up the slack way too much for coworkers with kids.

Everyone has to make choices, just because you're a parent it doesn't make you special.
Figure it out.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:18 PM
 
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Nope, the family unit died when parents stopped acting like parents because they were too lazy to be parents and wanted government to take over their duties... and blame everyone else for their problems...
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:02 PM
 
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Commish, I agree to a point. I'm single and pick up the slack way too much for coworkers with kids.

Everyone has to make choices, just because you're a parent it doesn't make you special.
Figure it out.
I'm single with kids and I pick up the slack way too much for coworkers without kids. I agree, being a parent shouldn't afford special privelege in the workplace. But I also think parents should not hesitate to stay home when kids are sick and I bend over backwards to help coworkers with these and other issues by covering for them.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:35 PM
 
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Nope, the family unit died when parents stopped acting like parents because they were too lazy to be parents and wanted government to take over their duties... and blame everyone else for their problems...
Nobody dares define it, but whatever it is, they're sure that it's either dead or dying. Family is a biological matter. How those biologically-linked individuals choose to relate and interact is always going to be a function of the times and technology. There is no ONE way to do it. Most people don't want to live the way Grandma and Grandpa did, and as far as I'm concerned, that's great. It's also great if they decide that they DO want to live the way Grandma and Grandpa did. Everybody should do what they feel they need to do. Work or don't work. Have kids or don't have kids. Live in an urban high-rise or a rural farmhouse. Move all the time or stay in the same place your whole life. Live next door to your sister or on the other side of the globe. None of it really matters. You can be happy and successful as a family in a million and one different ways, so just choose the one that seems to suit you best, and let the preacher-types sit over in the corner and moan about it...
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:41 PM
 
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I find it highly arrogant when people throw out a premise, with ZERO support for any thesis,one way or the other, then order other people to discuss it. Either support a POV with something that can be debated or go elsewhere to troll or have others write your homework assignment for you, I'm sure not.
My first thought after reading this was Mike Myers as the Jewish talk show host on SNL..."I'm feeling a bit phaklempt, talk amongst yourselves..."
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:13 PM
 
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Well good for you. A good paycheck helps!

Thanks, but I hardly make a good living, even with 2 jobs. I just have my priorities straight, in terms of how I spend money and time. We live a meager hand to mouth existence, but I don't let my kids suffer for it.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:01 AM
 
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Commish, I agree to a point. I'm single and pick up the slack way too much for coworkers with kids.

Everyone has to make choices, just because you're a parent it doesn't make you special.
Figure it out.
Ahhh, thank you. I deal w/this at LEAST once a week w/one of my coworkers who has a kid. I'm getting sick & tired of her being out once,twice, three times a week because of problems w/her kid. That's bull****!!!! And me & my other coworker have to of course pick up her slack, it's absurd! Get a damn plan in action already!
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:27 AM
 
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Somebody is working it. I haven't missed a day of work because of my kids. But they are in Middle School. I did child care when they were younger, and I honestly don't have much respect for people that dope their kids up and go to work anyway. If someone is missing that much time from work because of their kids there is something else going on.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:28 AM
 
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The womens movement had nothing to do with killing the family unit. So for me there is nothing to discuss on this question.
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