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Old 07-23-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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I don't quite understand. Because of the clutter she is said to be violating an municipal code of some kind, and might be creating rodent problems. Doesn't she have a right to create rodent problems on her own property if she wants to? Maybe if I knew more about how it could affect other people's property, I could understand where the city is coming from. Just based on what information was given in the video, I would say that if she took it to court, she would win because there's no good reason I can see for them to control what she puts on her own property.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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NM..I couldn't see anything.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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You don't wear a flagpin and you get accused of being unpatriotic. You put too many flags in your yard and you're accused of clutter. You can't win.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Actually this HOA thing kind of peaks my interest. I think this could be applied to poorer neighborhoods as a refuge for people who like decent quiet living. You could have a gated HOA trailer court with all the same rules as a McMansion developement. No barking dogs, felons, distastefull lawn ornaments, standardized lawn care. You could have rules about what condition your car has to be in (exhaust, rust ect) parking and rules about children always being on a leash, or maybe no kids at all. A cap on the number of people that can live in each unit and number of vehicles. The key to making it work is enforcement and signing away your rights to scumbaggery when you buy the unit. Must be able to boot out devients fast with only one or two warnings. I like it, maybe each unit could be required to fly an american flag.....
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:45 PM
 
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Well, this certainly is an issue, and one we should all focus on before more pressing issues.

Let her have her flags. OMG.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:14 AM
 
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How's about we be allowed to do whatever the hell we want on our land!? Forget the HOA. They didn't buy my house, I did!
Yes, and you bought it in HOA territory. Their territory, their rules.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Let's see..... My money, my house, my property....

How's about we be allowed to do whatever the hell we want on our land!? Forget the HOA. They didn't buy my house, I did!
Forget the part that she signed a contract with an HOA?
That trumps all.
She should read what she signs.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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Actually, hearing the video finally, she's part of the HOA's Neighborhood enforcement watch and reports her neighbors for violations so this seems more personal vendetta than anything else...and actually, shouldn't be "news".
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Yes, and you bought it in HOA territory. Their territory, their rules.
Not quite a good argument. Covenants/deed restrictions/HOA's were used to keep Blacks and other non-Whites out of neighborhoods during segregation. Declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. So "their rules" is on precarious ground as an argument. All such things should be eliminated as damaging to property rights. If one right, to not be discriminated against, trumps HOA's and such, should the right to own property and such not also trump such things? I think so. Of course this is coming from someone in favor of eliminating fee simple title and replacing it with allodial title, which should rightfully exist.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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that was just a boring predictable bush bashing video. yawn.
Sorry, but this song was out long, LONG before Bush, like 70-71 timeframe. And, it's a very good song, I sing it a lot in my mind.
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