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View Poll Results: Should America Apologize for George Bush?
Yes 29 17.68%
Fuggetaboutit 65 39.63%
Bush Voters should apologize to America 70 42.68%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2008, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Link showing tax cuts with increase in tax revenue.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Pa
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No more so than when the rest of the world has drug us into their conflicts. WWI WWII every brush war caused by Europe that the UN saw fit to involve itself in. The back bone for most those actions being american troops.
Has France apologized to the world for the congo? Vietnam?
Has China or Russia apologized for N.Korea? For selling weapons to who ever could pay the price?
NO....
WE owe no apologies. Much of the world problems are the result of greed on everyones part.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:27 PM
 
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I have no opinion on the other part.
Well, we'll just throw the question open to the floor, then, and see if there is anyone at all who can actually answer it. Ready? Here it comes...

Given that Bush has been the proverbial miserable failure in almost every category imaginable, which areas in particular would you sharp-pencil types claim that either of two actual smart guys (Gore and Kerry) would have messed up even worse than a certified bozo has?
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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I say we need a house cleaning and that the next Presedent will make no differance.
I say we need to learn how to use spell check.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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We've not had another attack since 911. We are winning in Iraq, and we are kicking some serious buttock muscles in Afghanistan. How's that messing up worse than a certified bozo?
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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Wrong answer to the question. Mr. LaFaive has no business being on the other end of a site called Ask the Economist. The claim is that tax cuts somehow pay for themselves...that revenues increase more than they would have in the absence of tax cuts. Here is what a few more well-known economists have to say on the matter. All are past or present officials in the Bush administration...

Edward Lazear, CEA Chairman...
I certainly would not claim that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Greg Mankiw, former CEA Chairman...
Most economists believe that taxes influence national income but doubt that the growth effects are large enough to make tax cuts self-financing.

Alan Viard, CEA Sr Economist...
Federal revenue is lower today than it would have been without the tax cuts. There's really no dispute among economists about that.

Robert Carroll, Treasury DAS for Tax Policy...
As a matter of principle, we do not think tax cuts pay for themselves.

Ben Bernanke, Federal Reserve Chairman...
I don't think that as a general rule tax cuts pay for themselves. What I have argued instead is that to the extent the tax cuts produce greater efficiency or greater growth, they will partially offset the losses in revenues.

Andrew Samwick, former CEA Chief Economist...
You know that the first order effect of cutting taxes is to lower tax revenues. We all agree that the ultimate reduction in tax revenues can be less than this first order effect, because lower tax rates encourage greater economic activity and thus expand the tax base. No thoughtful person believes that this possible offset more than compensated for the first effect for these tax cuts. Not a single one.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We've not had another attack since 911. We are winning in Iraq, and we are kicking some serious buttock muscles in Afghanistan. How's that messing up worse than a certified bozo?
You have a point. Not to mention that Kerry also voted against many improvments that would have made our troops more safe.
He was on the Senate Intel committee and he voted for the wars. As far as I am concerned he was a partner in the decision to go to war.
Kerry was part of the decision making that gutted the CIA and re-shaped it into the failure that allowed 911.
As far as honesty goes? He lied when he came back from Vietnam, recanted later, And then called Bush a liar about the intel on Iraq's alleged WMD's . Kerry was on the Intel com. He was privy to it all and also helped to shape the Intel com. He is a partner in its failure.
Lets not forget Kerry feels we need to get Europes permission before we can retaliate if we are attacked.
Gore? When he isn't acting like a raving Lunatic he is misrepresenting opinions as facts. Global warming ???? Opinions and bad science even the scientist on his team can't agree with each other.
As V. Prez Gore was part of the team that allowed Binladen to escape...
Part of the team that thought an aspirin factory was a good target.
Part of the team that allowed the attackers of the cole to go unpunished.
Part of the team that after the first attack on the trade centers actually did nothing to prevent a reoccurance.
What more need be said? I dont like GWB but lets face it neither Gore nor Kerry would have done anything to prevent 911 or reoccurance. Their track records speak volumes.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I disdain Bush and we were lied to about Iraq its an illegal war
We were not lied to and this is not an illegal war. The 1991 cease-fire agreement, which Iraq signed, gave the U.S. legal authority to resume military action if the agreement was broken, which it was.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We were not lied to and this is not an illegal war. The 1991 cease-fire agreement, which Iraq signed, gave the U.S. legal authority to resume military action if the agreement was broken, which it was.
Well said.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Should America apologize to the rest of the world for the last seven years?
I don't know so much about an apology, but what how do we tell the world that we elected the guy twice? Seriously, that's a huge embarrassment
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