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Old 08-02-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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They just passed a bill here in Washington for a .20 cent charge on plastic bags. I believe if you bring your own bag you are OK.
Do you get a refund if the bag breaks? Nothing worse than putting the bags into the car only the have the bag rip and the gallon of milk hit the pavement and explodes.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:36 PM
 
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Do you get a refund if the bag breaks? Nothing worse than putting the bags into the car only the have the bag rip and the gallon of milk hit the pavement and explodes.
That I do not know. I will check on that.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:37 PM
 
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20 cents a pop really isn't that bad. They provide hours of entertainment for the kids.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Escaped from the Peoples Republic of California a year and a half ago. One of the top three best decisions that I ever made.
Ditto - even on the time frame. Started 2007 as a Nevada resident.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Since nobody's clarified, this is the deal.

It's strictly a Los Angeles thing - it's not statewide. They're outlawing plastic grocery bags altogether beginning in July, 2010. You'll be able to get paper bags at the store, but you'll be charged 25 cents for each one.

The ridiculous thing is that plastic bags are actually better for the environment than paper bags. They take less energy to produce and recycle. They're much, much lighter (consider the energy used to transport the bags from the factory to the store). Bag for bag, they take up less space in the landfills. Recycling paper bags produces more air pollution and up to 50 times the water pollution than recycling plastic bags.

But, of course, perception is reality, right? It's politically incorrect to use plastic and paper is "greener" (not), so out with the environmentally friendly plastic and in with the environmentally UNfriendly paper...
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:12 PM
 
Location: California
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The problem is most of these bags end up in a landfill, the plastic bags don't break down as the paper does, if people recycled these plastic bags problem solved but most don't.
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:46 AM
 
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You pay for bags in a large part of the world.

Even Southeast Asia is on the bandwagon.

In Germany, for example, and most of Europe, you get your groceries in your cart and you're responsible for finding boxes and/or bags to move your groceries. You can buy a bag for about a quarter of 50 cents depending on the country. This has been going on for at least a decade.

In many store in Japan you now pay for your bags, MaxValue charges 5 yen.

I've been carrying my own bags for years.
Totes has some very nice bags for $5. that zip up when not in use. They carry quite a bit and don't rip.
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:18 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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All states should just switch to bio-degradable bags such as those made by DIAMANT corporation. Check out the DIAAF stock symbol. This company is going to explode.
Would that be like good old fashioned paper bags?

Some stores here still offer paper if you ask.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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it is so much cheaper and convenient to bring your own bag.... It cares more stuff, and distributes the weight better than the plastic...
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