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View Poll Results: Should the US Military Defend Georgia
No. 40 30.30%
No. We do NOT need to defend our allies. 3 2.27%
No This is the responsibility of the United Nations 16 12.12%
No The European Union should Take the lead on This. 12 9.09%
No. Georgia belongs to Russia 2 1.52%
No. Russia is justified invading Georgia 15 11.36%
No NATO should Take the lead on This. 9 6.82%
No The United Nations, European Union and NATO should Take the lead on This 15 11.36%
No, other 5 3.79%
Yes 6 4.55%
Yes, whatever it takes to help an ally 6 4.55%
Yes, but the United Nations, European Union and NATO should Take the lead on This 32 24.24%
Yes, other 2 1.52%
Not Sure 2 1.52%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2008, 11:03 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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I usuallly agree with you on most issues but not this one......even if we didn't have wars in Afghanistan and Russia - you honestly believe that USA would get into a full blown conflict/warfare with Russia in order to protect its ally, Georgia. Wow. The world must be a video game then....that we all play in
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Yes I think we might. Russia cant hold a candle to us military wise.

If being in the Army spending a tour in a Fire base in Afghanistan was playing video games than I played video games lol.

I am no neocon Bill Oreilly lets go to war type person but Russia would be DEVOURED by us.

You grossly over estimate Russia's military as far as working equipment and how up to date it is.

# I was just an E4 so no General lol but I wasnt playing video games either .
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:03 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Suppporting democracy is a noble pursuit.
for American soil.......................
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Suppporting democracy is a noble pursuit.
So basically we're the same as the USSR? Spreading what we perceive a one size fits all government around the world.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:05 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Well this is results from non humble foreign policy.If we had not chosen sides in the middle east we wouldn't be in Iraq and nether would Georgia.If we had not chosen to expand NATO after the cold war we would be neutral to Russia and Georgia.


We make alliances that commit us to war without thinking things out.
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"We make alliances that commit us to war without thinking things out"

I agree but every country does this not just us.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:06 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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So basically we're the same as the USSR? Spreading what we perceive a one size fits all government around the world.

Yes we lost the higher ground with our bogis invasion of Iraq .

In truth all Russia had to say was "They though GA has WMD"
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:07 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The analogy to Germany and Poland is tired and flawed. Poland was not a former republic of Germania right before 1938 nor does Russia possess a paralleled thirst for expansion. Germany/Hitler/USSR/Stalin is just good for shock value.
Ummm, Poland WAS formed from German territory as well as Russian and Austrian land after WWI.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:08 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So basically we're the same as the USSR? Spreading what we perceive a one size fits all government around the world.
Are you asserting that democracy is wrong for some people?
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ummm, Poland WAS formed from German territory as well as Russian and Austrian land after WWI.
Point taken, but partitioned is the key word here. It was not a wholly owned subsidiary of the Prussians.

Doesn't matter anyway because the Hitler analogy is a ludicrous statement only used by those who wish to make a case for war, regardless of how ill fitted the parallels are.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Are you asserting that democracy is wrong for some people?
Yep. Sorry, we don't own the best form of government for all people. The Soviets had the same delusions of utopian paradise as you're having.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Yes I think we might. Russia cant hold a candle to us military wise.

If being in the Army spending a tour in a Fire base in Afghanistan was playing video games than I played video games lol.

I am no neocon Bill Oreilly lets go to war type person but Russia would be DEVOURED by us.

You grossly over estimate Russia's military as far as working equipment and how up to date it is.

# I was just an E4 so no General lol but I wasnt playing video games either .
Wow. I haven't been in the military and all that but some stuff does make its own sense. You honestly believe USA might/could/should/would've gotten into a full blown conflict with Russia because the Russians invaded Georgia, our ally (population about 4 million), , which is thousands of miles away from us. Hahahahha......i am not gonna say more.
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