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The above youtube link is a good feed on what is actually
happening. China in many ways is becoming more like us but
the U.S. government is becoming more like China.
I probably won't be able to respond on the feed back of this
thread until I'm off work tonight so give me some time for that.
We have examples that are obvious such as the loss of American Civil Liberties. The government just doing what it wants. Attacking Iraq
under false pretenses to get their oil. Holding prisoners without trial and torturing them. The list will go on...
The above youtube link is a good feed on what is actually
happening. China in many ways is becoming more like us but
the U.S. government is becoming more like China.
I probably won't be able to respond on the feed back of this
thread until I'm off work tonight so give me some time for that.
Naomi Klein is an airhead and the fact that you take her seriously shows that your political views are extremely immature.
If anything the more capitalist, the less authoritarian it is. Compare today's China to Maoist China. Compare Russia right now to the Soviet Union.
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Originally Posted by Kerby W-R
We have examples that are obvious such as the loss of American Civil Liberties. The government just doing what it wants. Attacking Iraq
under false pretenses to get their oil. Holding prisoners without trial and torturing them. The list will go on...
A few things with that statement.
1) America did not attack Iraq to "get their oil". Obviously access to oil played a major role, but if the US government wanted to, they could easily take all the oil for itself and all profits for itself. That hasn't happened at all/
2) Most people thought that Saddam had a weapons program. He had one before the Gulf War and used mustard gas and possibly phosgene against both the Iranians and Kurds, the Israelis blew up a nuclear reactor in the early 80s that was intended to produce weapons grade material, he implied that he would use chemical weapons in the first Gulf War, and Saddam repeatedly kicked out weapons inspectors and remained ambigous about whether or not he actually had WMDs.
There are legitimate reasons to have opposed the Invasion of Iraq, but claiming it was purely some oil grab or that there wasn't grounds for the claims that Saddam had a WMD program or that Iraq hadn't already violated the ceasefire dozens of time or that Iraq didn't have ties to a number of terrorist groups and so on aren't legitimate oppositions.
We have examples that are obvious such as the loss of American Civil Liberties. The government just doing what it wants. Attacking Iraq
under false pretenses to get their oil. Holding prisoners without trial and torturing them. The list will go on...
You just proved to me that nothing you say is to be taken seriously.
We have examples that are obvious such as the loss of American Civil Liberties. The government just doing what it wants. Attacking Iraq
under false pretenses to get their oil. Holding prisoners without trial and torturing them. The list will go on...
Sad but true. We could have invaded China based on the rationale we gave for the invasion of Iraq. But China doesn't have oil, and we rely on it for cheap labor. So we just turn a blind eye to the fact that the Chinese regime is a thousand times more evil than Saddam's ever was.
In America it's the opposite trend but towards the same resort. Corporations are buying out government here, in China government is buying the corporations. But the result is the same - corporate fascism.
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