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Yup, the last time I flew domestically I found out I am on that "watch list" as well.
I can guarantee you in my case anyway it's strictly because of my political views.
Even local law enforcement are alerted when they run the DL of anyone on the list.
It just ensures you get maximum harrassment from any US authority you deal with.
This is the classic fascist "****-list". It's really nothing new, just that modern technology really facilitates this kind of totalitarian crookedness.
Yup, the last time I flew domestically I found out I am on that "watch list" as well.
I can guarantee you in my case anyway it's strictly because of my political views.
Even local law enforcement are alerted when they run the DL of anyone on the list.
It just ensures you get maximum harrassment from any US authority you deal with.
This is the classic fascist "****-list". It's really nothing new, just that modern technology really facilitates this kind of totalitarian crookedness.
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I have heard that from people who have blogged,etc spoken out against this GVMT and given their name,info.
They seem to wind up on that list . Than those reporters that investigate it also wind up on the list.
Which makes their life horrible as they fly frequently.
Yup, the last time I flew domestically I found out I am on that "watch list" as well.
I can guarantee you in my case anyway it's strictly because of my political views.
Even local law enforcement are alerted when they run the DL of anyone on the list.
It just ensures you get maximum harrassment from any US authority you deal with.
This is the classic fascist "****-list". It's really nothing new, just that modern technology really facilitates this kind of totalitarian crookedness.
If you don't mind my asking, do you know exactly what you said that caused you to end up on the watch list? Do you have a blog or something, or was it just things you've written on forums such as city-data? What sort of problems occur at the airport due to your name being put on the watch list? Were you born in America? Are you a member of any organizations that may be considered "radical" by our government?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm interested to know, but I absolutely, totally understand if you don't want to tell me.
I can guarantee you in my case anyway it's strictly because of my political views.
Get over yourself - the government doesn't give a rat's patootie about you. If your name is on the list, it's because someone who actually should be on the list either has the same name or has used it as an alias. I worked with a fellow who was "on the list", except that he wasn't. It was someone else with the same name.
The watch list doesn't differentiate between individuals - it's just a list of names. If you're unfortunate enough to have a name that also happens to be on that list, then you just have to deal with it. My former coworker does, and he doesn't complain about it...
Get over yourself - the government doesn't give a rat's patootie about you. If your name is on the list, it's because someone who actually should be on the list either has the same name or has used it as an alias. I worked with a fellow who was "on the list", except that he wasn't. It was someone else with the same name.
The watch list doesn't differentiate between individuals - it's just a list of names. If you're unfortunate enough to have a name that also happens to be on that list, then you just have to deal with it. My former coworker does, and he doesn't complain about it...
That is the poorest excuse I ever heard - the same they used in Florida to keep people from voting! Sorry, Mr. Jackson, but you have same name as felon John Jackson, so you will not be allowed to vote.
Either the gobment is acting maliciously - would be very interesting to know how many Bush supporters are on said list - or it is grossly incompetent - either way, not good. There should be a clear procedure in place to get off the list if it a case of...mistaken identity. For sure, via birth certificates, passports etc, it could be done.
As your Ben Franklin said, 'Those who would give up Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety'
There you go. Now you're starting to understand. I wouldn't call it "gross" incompetence in this case, as they're just casting the net wide to make sure they don't miss any fish. Missing one could mean another 9/11 (or worse).
I've always said that the government isn't capable of managing large systems. They can't do it efficiently, if at all. This is one example. The postal service is another. And the granddaddy of all mismanaged government projects - social security. The really terrifying thing is that people actually want to entrust our health care to the government...
Could the "no fly" list be managed better? Of course. Everything the federal government does could be managed better. Frankly, they shouldn't even be doing the majority of things they're involved with. If they'd just stop mucking about with things that aren't their business, they might actually be able to efficiently accomplish the things they are supposed to be doing...
There you go. Now you're starting to understand. I wouldn't call it "gross" incompetence in this case, as they're just casting the net wide to make sure they don't miss any fish. Missing one could mean another 9/11 (or worse).
I've always said that the government isn't capable of managing large systems. They can't do it efficiently, if at all. This is one example. The postal service is another. And the granddaddy of all mismanaged government projects - social security. The really terrifying thing is that people actually want to entrust our health care to the government...
Could the "no fly" list be managed better? Of course. Everything the federal government does could be managed better. Frankly, they shouldn't even be doing the majority of things they're involved with. If they'd just stop mucking about with things that aren't their business, they might actually be able to efficiently accomplish the things they are supposed to be doing...
I said it may be incompetence but there could be other motives as well. I've an unusual Gaelic name, and am on same said stupid list. Why? Who knows? But cannot get off it or find out why am on it.
This, mate, seems like it should be unconstitutional.
What happens at the airport? Are you allowed to fly?
I'm not on any lists that I'm aware of, but every time I fly, they go through my bags (never put things back like I had them either) and I always get called over for the extra search.
Unless something more bothersome is happening, I'm not worried about it. And I highly doubt "political views" have anything to do with it.
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No, not for use on TSA officials. 
