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Old 08-17-2008, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Switching sides won't help. The parties (and partisan press) ARE the problem. Since neither has a clue, it's important to keep the them both at equal strength and preoccupied with minutia until a viable third party comes along. Or maybe someday the people will finally realize they are both just giant fund-raising and marketing organizations and refuse to identify with either one.
That's all fine to say, but I want Bush and anyone like him (McCain) out. And there is no viable 3rd party candidate this year.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:19 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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I would say you would rather have someone who wants to change Our Country and has no plans for what he wants to do? I mean he wants us to fill our tires to save gas, oh yeah and he said to slow down, yeah right these people on the freeways think they are in NASCAR You go Osama and we'll all be wearing headrags
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:59 AM
 
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granholm pushed me to Indiana
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:06 AM
 
Location: exit 0
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I made this flyer last night. Print some copies and post them around.

I can make any changes if needed.
Not quite sure that will happen. Michigan is in a sad state (no pun intended) as it was 2 years ago yet the voters chose to reelect Granholm. I'm hoping the next go round they wake up and rid the state of all incumbents.
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Which incompetent "leader" is pushing your political leanings farther? Thinking of switching teams?
Bush pushed me out of the GOP several years ago. I never did get on board with the Dems. So I typically default to libertarian these days.
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Bush pushed me out of the GOP several years ago. I never did get on board with the Dems. So I typically default to libertarian these days.
So you don't vote?

Not sure why this was moved to the Politics section. Most people on here won't know who Granholm is.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I changed from Rep, to Independent.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:42 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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> So I typically default to libertarian these days<

Yep in 1996 and 2004 I voted for the Libertarian as a protest vote.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I want Bush and anyone like him (McCain) out.
Listening to MoveOn and Daily Kos a bit too much? They're about as different as two politicians in the same party can be.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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On the contrary there a substantial differences between the parties. For example, the majority of Democratic Congresmen voted for us to stay out of the Iraq War. Every single GOPer but one voted for the war.

Who are you trying to kid? I can name you numerous votes were almost every single GOPer voted against a pro-middle class issue whereas the majority of Democrats voted in favor of it.

That's not to say there are not sorry Democrats. Many must be voted out for voting like GOPers. ie, anti-middle class, pro-corporation, anti-enviroment, etc.
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