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Old 08-22-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I've seen plenty of folks of all colors at the rallies and at the clinic.
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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Sex cannot be determined that early - so why would they ask you? Genitals do not eevn start to develop until 14 weeks.
Oh ya? Abortion Videos, Audio Clips and Documents
Top of page...click Hey Babe..top navbar...scroll to Baby development and read...."Somewhere
between the second and third month, the fetus’ external genital
organs develop and become obvious."

Also, there are pic's Silent Scream Video's 12 Parts:
Silent Scream (http://www.abortiontv.com/Movies/silentscream.htm - broken link) poor quality, but you can get the point pretty clearly.

Photo's are clear...Look at #29 Quite obvious to me the gender. Probably explains why I was asked if I wanted to know my BABY's genders.

Back on Topic: " and two other WomanCare facilities in Metro Detroit.
Most were dated in 2008 and some included patients' names, phone numbers, pregnancy stage and abortion date. "

The other two clinics should be shut down, too. If this happened outside of a regular doctor's office you can bet there would be hell to pay. Every patient of these doctor's would be contacting lawyers to sue their doctor's for letting this vital and personal information be accessed. Abortionist doctor's AKA Planned Parenthood need to be accountable just as well as regular family doctor's.
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:41 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The Silent Scream is a piece of garbage that has been debunked MANY times. Besides that the "supposed" age of the fetus in that film is 12 weeks... even though doctors say it's actually much older in reality:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/iss...cream-6136.htm

I provided you with links to reputable medical sources that show that you cannot determine gender prior to 12 weeks. Ask ANYONE who has been pregnant. You cannot determine gender that early unless using 3D ultrasounds, and even then it's iffy.

You're full of crap, sorry. Especially the part about them "taking the baby out and asking if you wanted to know the sex". The "baby" prior to 12 weeks is ONE INCH LONG.
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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Is the Mayo Clinic a good enough source for you?

Fetal development: What happens during the first trimester? - MayoClinic.com
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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The Silent Scream is a piece of garbage that has been debunked MANY times. I provided you with links to reputable medical sources that show that you cannot determine gender prior to 12 weeks. Ask ANYONE who has been pregnant. You cannot determine gender that early unless using 3D ultrasounds, and even then it's iffy.

You're full of crap, sorry. Especially the part about them "taking the baby out and asking if you wanted to know the sex". The "baby" prior to 12 weeks is ONE INCH LONG.
I just proved you are full of crap!
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:46 PM
 
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I just proved you are full of crap!
Really? By linking to propoganda sites? They are more accurate than the MAYO CLINIC? Here are some more medical sites relating to how early you can determine sex in a fetus. Are you saying they are wrong and your propoganda sites are right?

http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,5276,00.html (broken link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstetric_ultrasonography
http://www.webmd.com/baby/fetal-ultrasound
http://www.amazingpregnancy.com/preg...ticles/14.html
http://bjr.birjournals.org/cgi/content/full/76/907/448
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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Mayo Clinic is fine! Check out week 11! Thanks! You helped my case! Goodnight!
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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Really? By linking to propoganda sites? They are more accurate than the MAYO CLINIC? Here are some more medical sites relating to how early you can determine sex in a fetus. Are you saying they are wrong and your propoganda sites are right?

Boy or Girl? The Development of the Fetal Genitals (http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,5276,00.html - broken link)
Obstetric ultrasonography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fetal Ultrasound
AmazingPregnancy.com - URL Does Not Exist
The use of three-dimensional ultrasound for fetal gender determination in the first trimester -- Michailidis et al. 76 (907): 448 -- The British Journal of Radiology
After reading the dr spock...You are helping prove my point! You obviously aren't reading what you are throwing at me! LOL Read your first article. ....read the Mayo Clinic article....You can tell the sex around 11 and 12 weeks....


Shut them down!!!
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:12 PM
 
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hmmm.....has anyone else noticed it is only the white folk at the pro-choice rallies?
Hmmm. Not really. Still the case either way is that just about one-third of all abortions are performed for whites...
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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I just proved you are full of crap!
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
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