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China is about business.
Wars with your biggest customer are bad for business.
Time is on China's side.
There may be a time in the future where the USA is not the biggest customer. China is developing its markets in throughout Asia and Europe. Does this mean China will go to war with the USA? I do not think so. But some others here might differ in opinion.
Sometimes its easier to simply buy something than deal with the mess of stealing it. China is evolving. As the politics and situation of China change, Tiawan will be more and more similar. As they become more similar, it might well look more attractive to simply join China...
It was theirs to burn if they chose to do so. Hardly a justification to loot it.
I was watching a Discovery Channel program where a convicted (but apparently free) British antiquities smuggler used that very same argument about how he was actually saving things from the Arabs.
So it was the ChiComs right to destroy what wasn't theirs?
So if I proclaim myself ruler or whatever, I can destroy whatever I can physically get to and anyone who holds out is the same as being a thief?
I may be wrong, but that seems to be exactly what you are saying. It was the right of the Communists to do whatever they wanted because they could, but when someone else did something else because they could, it became wrong.
With that being said, I do not blame the OP. The OP and many others have been hearing this Taiwan good, China Commie Hell Hole bad chant for quite some time. Don't you know, if you just carry a picture of the Dalai Lama, they will execute you or worse!!!
Actually, that's true. Carrying a picture of the DL or flying a Tibetan flag can land you in prison or even in a grave.
I'm not sure why people feel the need to be a cheerleader for what is probably the most brutal, repressive regime on the face of the planet today.
Actually, that's true. Carrying a picture of the DL or flying a Tibetan flag can land you in prison or even in a grave.
I'm not sure why people feel the need to be a cheerleader for what is probably the most brutal, repressive regime on the face of the planet today.
And you know this to be true? Please provide some verifiable proof. If you can, I will accept it. A name. A date. A photo. Anything. Can you even recount the story and circumstance that you heard the story that you base this on?
If you can't, then I will remain skeptical and that might even bleed into your following claims.
Some people simply cheer China on becauase they, like myself, have money tied in their 401(k) and other accounts with them. Also, as China gets richer, the people stand to benefit. Isn't it a good thing to wish other people well, or just Americans? The United States can learn (or rather, re-learn) what it's like to actually have a capitalist society instead of a command/control economy where Fannie/Freddie operate on the taxpayer dime and bank bailouts are an everday occurrence, and this behavior is not only anticipated, it's tolerated for some bend over backwards apologist reason or another.
China needs to improve property rights a bit more as well as human rights, but in terms of most things economy related, they're doing A-OK. Thumbs up for them in that respect!
Some people simply cheer China on becauase they, like myself, have money tied in their 401(k) and other accounts with them. Also, as China gets richer, the people stand to benefit. Isn't it a good thing to wish other people well, or just Americans? The United States can learn (or rather, re-learn) what it's like to actually have a capitalist society instead of a command/control economy where Fannie/Freddie operate on the taxpayer dime and bank bailouts are an everday occurrence, and this behavior is not only anticipated, it's tolerated for some bend over backwards apologist reason or another.
China needs to improve property rights a bit more as well as human rights, but in terms of most things economy related, they're doing A-OK. Thumbs up for them in that respect!
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As the great Philosopher Rodney King once said "Can't we all just get along?"
It is as simple as that. China is moving in the right direction as it finally has some traction on pulling it's 1.3 Billion citizens out of the deficit it started with. How would we do if we had that size population?
Why is it that the current inhabitants of Taiwan could simply go over to THAT island and occupy it while casting accusations at the the Chinese back on the mainland.
People forget it was the US that kicked Taiwan off of the UN Security Council and it was the US that kicked Taiwan out of the UN.
A "One China" policy isn't Chinese at all, it's a US concept.
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With that being said, I do not blame the OP. The OP and many others have been hearing this Taiwan good, China Commie Hell Hole bad chant for quite some time.
It just goes to show you how damaging indoctrination and inculcation in schools (both public and private) is.
I was the same way until I started drinking with Russians (I worked at Helmstedt off and on), and partying at the Moscow (a restaurant in East Berlin). I spent 60 days in the field with them on their version of REFORGER. Used to drink with Soviet pilots in a little bar in Toszeg. Worked with Chinese at UN refugee camp near Mae Hong Son.
If you hang out in some of the US economic slave colonies, especially those in Central America, there really isn't much difference between the US and China, except that the US is a better liar.
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The older generation Taiwanese harbor an unjustified superiority complex.
Not really. Borodin was the Soviet advisor to both the CPP and the KMT. He advised Stalin to back the KMT, since they were the more ruthless of the two.
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Originally Posted by Bob The Builder The older generation Taiwanese harbor an unjustified superiority complex.
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Not really. Borodin was the Soviet advisor to both the CPP and the KMT. He advised Stalin to back the KMT, since they were the more ruthless of the two.
Perhaps this is beyond my pay grade. Does your statement preclude the "superiority complex" claim I make? I draw that from personal experience over decades of dealings with the Taiwanese. Not the Military, just the older Taiwanese in general. Much like how the British have this superiority complex over the peasant Italians.
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