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Is it insulting to minorities to see their lives portrayed so? I don't think so. I'm Black and I never got that memo or that feeling from other Black people. We are happy to be included. We loved the Cosby show. We don't like always being set apart as some kind of people with perennial problems. One Black kid, one White kid and one Asian kid was just how my car looked on the way to the movies this evening. I think you're making a huge assumption.
As a white person, it even offends ME to see TV ads portaying whites as a great deal more affluent and successful as most of us have a right to even aspire to. It struck me that black would feel that even more so. A happy black family being handed the keys to a 2-million dollar Cape Cod in a country club neighborhood with bothof their Escalades in the driveway. I would say "Yeah, right." And it would remind me of WHY that is so unrealistic.
And the fact that you had a multiracial group of children in your car does not translate to an assumption that a white woman would have the same mix in hers. I see McDonalds ads all the time, showing mixed-race groups of friends at the same table. But I don't see that at the REAL McDonalds down the street. Americans segregate themselves into cultural social groups all on their own (at least in all the towns I've ever lived in). The only time I ever see mixed groups in a restaurant is during lunch hour, when mixed co-workers go to lunch together, but that is an externally imposed socialization. It is true that inter-racial dating is now the norm, but I am not convinced that McDonalds ads have contributed to that sentiment.
Perhaps more than insulted, I just resent having a for-profit representation made of my culture which does not reflect reality, but rather represents a salable image. I often watch a TV show and put myself in the place of a
Syrian or a Vietnamese, and ask myself how accurate is this picture of life in America. It is troubling. It is a bifurcated picture, of either what our culture hopes, or what it fears. And the outsider does not know how to separate the two. Perhaps insiders do not, either.
As a white person, it even offends ME to see TV ads portaying whites as a great deal more affluent and successful as most of us have a right to even aspire to. It struck me that black would feel that even more so. A happy black family being handed the keys to a 2-million dollar Cape Cod in a country club neighborhood with bothof their Escalades in the driveway. I would say "Yeah, right." And it would remind me of WHY that is so unrealistic.
And the fact that you had a multiracial group of children in your car does not translate to an assumption that a white woman would have the same mix in hers. I see McDonalds ads all the time, showing mixed-race groups of friends at the same table. But I don't see that at the REAL McDonalds down the street. Americans segregate themselves into cultural social groups all on their own (at least in all the towns I've ever lived in). The only time I ever see mixed groups in a restaurant is during lunch hour, when mixed co-workers go to lunch together, but that is an externally imposed socialization. It is true that inter-racial dating is now the norm, but I am not convinced that McDonalds ads have contributed to that sentiment.
Perhaps more than insulted, I just resent having a for-profit representation made of my culture which does not reflect reality, but rather represents a salable image. I often watch a TV show and put myself in the place of a
Syrian or a Vietnamese, and ask myself how accurate is this picture of life in America. It is troubling. It is a bifurcated picture, of either what our culture hopes, or what it fears. And the outsider does not know how to separate the two. Perhaps insiders do not, either.
When just the idea of people being prosperous, happy and contented makes you feel unhappy--that is called envy. Envious people tend to hate the good for being the good.
It must be a miserable way to live. You have my condolences.
It's also the source of "white guilt" which often prompts successful white people to advocate for programs that punish successful people for being successful, among other retarded practices.
i would never have a problem with an ad that promoted the reality of peoples lives. all groups are economicially, culturally and physcally diverse. those difference should be represented fully. no one should feel bitter about that. when they do, its very... telling.
thanks LSF
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Originally Posted by laysayfair
When just the idea of people being prosperous, happy and contented makes you feel unhappy--that is called envy. Envious people tend to hate the good for being the good.
It must be a miserable way to live. You have my condolences.
When just the idea of people being prosperous, happy and contented makes you feel unhappy--that is called envy. Envious people tend to hate the good for being the good.
It must be a miserable way to live. You have my condolences.
I have no problem with people being happy. I have a problem with people from central casting pretending they are happy when there are few real-life circumstances when that would be so, and then foisting it off on the public as typical, in order to sell a product to people who wish they had the money, but don't. It's called Creating False Dreams, and it is a part of the why-we're-in-Iraq syndrome. Our image that we can create a world in which it will be an Iraqi family in that 2-million dollar Cape Cod next to some Sadr-City country club.
As a white person, it even offends ME to see TV ads portaying whites as a great deal more affluent and successful as most of us have a right to even aspire to. It struck me that black would feel that even more so. A happy black family being handed the keys to a 2-million dollar Cape Cod in a country club neighborhood with bothof their Escalades in the driveway. I would say "Yeah, right." And it would remind me of WHY that is so unrealistic.
And the fact that you had a multiracial group of children in your car does not translate to an assumption that a white woman would have the same mix in hers. I see McDonalds ads all the time, showing mixed-race groups of friends at the same table. But I don't see that at the REAL McDonalds down the street. Americans segregate themselves into cultural social groups all on their own (at least in all the towns I've ever lived in). The only time I ever see mixed groups in a restaurant is during lunch hour, when mixed co-workers go to lunch together, but that is an externally imposed socialization. It is true that inter-racial dating is now the norm, but I am not convinced that McDonalds ads have contributed to that sentiment.
Perhaps more than insulted, I just resent having a for-profit representation made of my culture which does not reflect reality, but rather represents a salable image. I often watch a TV show and put myself in the place of a
Syrian or a Vietnamese, and ask myself how accurate is this picture of life in America. It is troubling. It is a bifurcated picture, of either what our culture hopes, or what it fears. And the outsider does not know how to separate the two. Perhaps insiders do not, either.
well all of balwdin hills and other affluent neighborhoods in LA would be offended that you think they are not real. they are. and black affleunt neighborhoods exists througout the whole country. for you to think so is a bit ignorant. and prejudiced.
its not a false dream. its an attainable reality.
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I have no problem with people being happy. I have a problem with people from central casting pretending they are happy when there are few real-life circumstances when that would be so, and then foisting it off on the public as typical, in order to sell a product to people who wish they had the money, but don't. It's called Creating False Dreams, and it is a part of the why-we're-in-Iraq syndrome. Our image that we can create a world in which it will be an Iraqi family in that 2-million dollar Cape Cod next to some Sadr-City country club.
This commercial is obviously not from the US and you would not understand why the comercial is like this unless you are from, lived, or have spent time in the country that this commercial is aired. It is a cultural difference not a racists thing probably.
I hope you're referring to the commersial in the OP.
Hope away but, don't hold your breath.
It's pretty ridiculous to assume the imaginary.
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