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Old 08-28-2008, 04:51 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Since the news media is so excited about the likelyhood that a Black American will soon be our President...when are we going to have an American Indian in that position? If not why not? I certainly think they deserve the position.

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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I think no one deserves anything merely based on their ethnic or racial background. By the way, I support Obama against McCain.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Race shouldn't matter.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:20 PM
 
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Eeeeeek! So now affirmative action comes to the presidency. Let's see whether I've got this right. We're talking about our nation's head of state, the person with the final say on issues that affect the well-being of 300 million Americans, the one with his hand on The Button, the individual who represents the U.S. to the world, and we are supposed to decide whom to vote into that position not on the basis of which person we sincerely believe would best perform this vital and complex job, but on the basis of an examination of each candidate's race, with the winner being the person whose race has been represented in the presidency less than the races of the other candidates. Is that what the OP is proposing? Just want to make sure I have this right here.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:27 PM
 
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Hmm, actually I'm wondering whether the OP may not be trying a clever ploy to cause a re-examination of affirmative action. Suggest applying the policy to a job that is vital to have performed at the highest degree of ability, and it compels people to face the reality that maybe they are not really in favor of affirmative action in every case, which then leads them to examine the question of, well, just at what level of employment does it become acceptable. Interesting ploy, using the extreme example to make a point. Kind of like asking people whether they'd like affirmative action or ability to be the factor that determines who becomes the doctor who will one day perform surgery on them, or the pilot who will fly the airplane in which they ride. Very interesting way to approach this.

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Old 08-28-2008, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Since the news media is so excited about the likelyhood that a Black American will soon be our President...when are we going to have an American Indian in that position? If not why not? I certainly think they deserve the position.

Please tell me that you are ineligible to vote. At least please tell me that you don't base your vote on who "deserves" or is entitled to be president. Here's a novel idea, how about voting for the person who is the best for the job regardless of whether or not you think that person, by virtue of race, deserves the job. Honestly, too many people today view the Presidency and the election lightly; as some sort of prolonged season of American Idol rather than an eminently important process of deciding who will 'hired' for a tremendously difficult job.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:53 PM
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One should achieve the presidency on his or her merits. I am as happy as the next person to see Obama as the Democratic nominee (as I support him, and have since the beginning), but ethnicity has nothing to do with my opinions. On a personal level, as a woman, I would love to see a woman as president, however, I do not vote based on ethnicity or gender alone, I vote based on whom I feel best represents the social, political, and economic values I hold.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I agree with ogre and j33. I actually got annoyed tonight, when I heard for the ump-teenth time about the historical nature of Obama's nomination. I thought we were supposed to vote for the best person; I thought we were supposed to transcend race. BTW, I live in metro Denver and am a Democrat, will vote for Obama.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:08 AM
 
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The whole thing's a joke. Neither McCain or Obama is truly well suited or qualified to be President. Obama is Mulatto and NOT Black. And the way the media is making his race a major issue is disgraceful and an insult to the office of President. Once again, appearances are being promoted over substance.

A guy by the name of Curtis, a Native American, was a VP I believe during the Hoover Administration.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Eeeeeek! So now affirmative action comes to the presidency. Let's see whether I've got this right. We're talking about our nation's head of state, the person with the final say on issues that affect the well-being of 300 million Americans, the one with his hand on The Button, the individual who represents the U.S. to the world, and we are supposed to decide whom to vote into that position not on the basis of which person we sincerely believe would best perform this vital and complex job, but on the basis of an examination of each candidate's race, with the winner being the person whose race has been represented in the presidency less than the races of the other candidates. Is that what the OP is proposing? Just want to make sure I have this right here.
The OP ( me ) was pointing out the huge hoopla the new media is making about the fact that a black man has been nominated for the Democratic person to be voted in for President.
You apparently read into what I said what you 'though' I said.
Go back and reread the OP.

As for my suggestion that an American Indian be nominated... apparently you have a problem with that ???
My husband is of Cherokee ancestry. I think it would be really nice if the Am. Indians were given as much media coverage as the black. After all they had their land taken away from them. If this angers you, and others, perhaps you are the ones who are racist!

I do not even know what you mean about the "afirmative action" thing..in fact your entire post has nothing to do with what I poasted !

( It looks like you picked an apt posting name. )

And your second post is just as weird !
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