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Old 09-04-2008, 11:35 AM
 
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Not a week goes by that I don't hear at least one or two people make some kind of bigoted anti-Muslim or anti-Arab statement in real life, off the computer. I'm not a Muslim but I think it's sad that in the US this kind of behavior is acceptable. I blame the right wing of the Republican party, too, because they are the ones feeding this rhetoric.

They always emphasize the middle name of Barak Obama... "Barack Hussein Obama". "McCain not Hussein", etc. It's all incredibly shallow and bigoted. Or they will mock things they don't understand, such as traditional Muslim or Arab dress or customs. It is beyond the pale now days to talk about "watermelon" and "African-American" together, so why do so many people continue to use Muslims and Arabs as the butt of jokes?

I think Republicans should repudiate this behavior if they have any conscience at all. They need to own up to their anti-Muslim rhetoric.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:48 AM
 
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Good topic....but not as simple as just 'prejudice'. Arabs have been part of America for decades....(Danny Thomas, Jamie Farr, Casey Kasem, Vic Tayback, and myriad others, many in public life), and GENERALLY have been well-liked. Most of these people, however, were Christians..or simply non-religious.

Today, there is a significant movement in the Muslim world bent on destroying all things western....and an unwillingness, or an inability, for the REST of the Muslim community to convincingly disavow that thinking.

In short, America has very little experience with the Muslim religion, up until relatively recent times...and now, much of the experience we DO have is disturbing at best. To me, it's not TOO surprising that there is a certain amount of negative 'vibe' out there in society. After all, American society, like all others, is comprised of groups of varying degrees of sophistication.

I think if you compare the 'prejudice' in American society with that of other societies around the world, we don't look too bad....we're trying to be an all-inclusive, non-judgemental society here, and there are going to be a few 'bumps in the road'.

Perhaps the Muslim community might help, by making more of an effort to disavow the 'bad guys' in their midst...whether this would solve the problem altogether, I can't say..but surely it would help. Just a suggestion.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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Not a week goes by that I don't hear at least one or two people make some kind of bigoted anti-Muslim or anti-Arab statement in real life, off the computer. I'm not a Muslim but I think it's sad that in the US this kind of behavior is acceptable. I blame the right wing of the Republican party, too, because they are the ones feeding this rhetoric.

They always emphasize the middle name of Barak Obama... "Barack Hussein Obama". "McCain not Hussein", etc. It's all incredibly shallow and bigoted. Or they will mock things they don't understand, such as traditional Muslim or Arab dress or customs. It is beyond the pale now days to talk about "watermelon" and "African-American" together, so why do so many people continue to use Muslims and Arabs as the butt of jokes?

I think Republicans should repudiate this behavior if they have any conscience at all. They need to own up to their anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Rather convenient that you seem to have forgotten that many Democrats joined the anti-Arab frenzy that was the controversy over DP World/Dubai Ports. Chuck Schumer (D-New York) was right there on the front lines ever before the GOP got involved.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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Well said, Mac--
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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Americans believe that Atheists are also incapable of harboring any moral sense of right and wrong, but at least, they do not accuse Atheist of trying to kill them, and reply with pre-emptive genocide against that eventuality.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:16 PM
 
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Another Intelligent Post by Mac.Give ya Rep if i could...
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:20 PM
 
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palin calls McCain....John S McCain and why is Barrack Hussein Obama so ashamed of his middle name....? makes you wonder!


Nobody has anything against muslims...but a lot against radical muslims and the once who blow themself up and wish dead on others....which are millions of muslims!!!!
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:32 PM
 
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Good topic....but not as simple as just 'prejudice'. Arabs have been part of America for decades....(Danny Thomas, Jamie Farr, Casey Kasem, Vic Tayback, and myriad others, many in public life), and GENERALLY have been well-liked. Most of these people, however, were Christians..or simply non-religious.

Today, there is a significant movement in the Muslim world bent on destroying all things western....and an unwillingness, or an inability, for the REST of the Muslim community to convincingly disavow that thinking.

In short, America has very little experience with the Muslim religion, up until relatively recent times...and now, much of the experience we DO have is disturbing at best. To me, it's not TOO surprising that there is a certain amount of negative 'vibe' out there in society. After all, American society, like all others, is comprised of groups of varying degrees of sophistication.

I think if you compare the 'prejudice' in American society with that of other societies around the world, we don't look too bad....we're trying to be an all-inclusive, non-judgemental society here, and there are going to be a few 'bumps in the road'.

Perhaps the Muslim community might help, by making more of an effort to disavow the 'bad guys' in their midst...whether this would solve the problem altogether, I can't say..but surely it would help. Just a suggestion.
Excellent post and you hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:34 PM
 
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Not a week goes by that I don't hear at least one or two people make some kind of bigoted anti-Muslim or anti-Arab statement in real life, off the computer. I'm not a Muslim but I think it's sad that in the US this kind of behavior is acceptable. I blame the right wing of the Republican party, too, because they are the ones feeding this rhetoric.

They always emphasize the middle name of Barak Obama... "Barack Hussein Obama". "McCain not Hussein", etc. It's all incredibly shallow and bigoted. Or they will mock things they don't understand, such as traditional Muslim or Arab dress or customs. It is beyond the pale now days to talk about "watermelon" and "African-American" together, so why do so many people continue to use Muslims and Arabs as the butt of jokes?

I think Republicans should repudiate this behavior if they have any conscience at all. They need to own up to their anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Maybe the Republicans will repudiate this "behavior" when the Democrats stop demonizing Christianity.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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Why didin't Obama get his picture taken with the two Muslim women wearing headscarves at Joe Louis Arena a few weeks ago?
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