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View Poll Results: Should The United States Unilateral Disarm All Our Nuclear Weapons
Yes, other nations will follow our lead. 0 0%
Yes, in today's world we don't need them. 3 8.33%
Yes, we can use all the money to help our poor 0 0%
Yes 2 5.56%
No 18 50.00%
No. All politicians who suggest such a thing, motivations should be questioned. 17 47.22%
Not Sure 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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I have no problem with a nuclear readiness to defend America. I have a huge problem with a nuclear readiness to defend America's interests. That goes for conventional warfare, too, not just nuclear.
When has nuclear armament EVER been used to defend American interest? Unless you are talking about America's interest in keeping 1,000,000 soldiers and marines alive in 1945?
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:21 PM
 
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When has nuclear armament EVER been used to defend American interest? Unless you are talking about America's interest in keeping 1,000,000 soldiers and marines alive in 1945?

Nuclear power was what brought the cold war to an end.....It was a wait it out situation where they ran out of time, effort, money.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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When has nuclear armament EVER been used to defend American interest? ?
It hasn't been. Yet. Are our troops currently deployed to defend America, or America's interests?

In 1945, we used a million troops, and nuclear weapons to defend them, against an enemy that had not put a single boot on the ground on this continent, and probably couldn't have. And would have been repelled quickly and easily if they had. We were defending our interest, and our interest was dominating both sides of the Pacific ourselves, and that is the interest that the A-bomb was used to defend.

Is it your contention that if we had not used the A-bomb, and had brought those million troops home to defend our own shores, that the Japanese could have and would have penetrated our defense and successfully have won the war on our shores and occupied America?
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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Cold War - Information, Facts, and Links

A lot of people forget how much of our history over the last 60 years has been involved in war and it was all over communism and the cold war. The Korean war was due to the cold war, Vietnam, the space race, Berlin wall....ect. The above site has some good facts.....

Basically the US used less of it's GDP developing as many nuclear weapons as possible to the point where it was just a huge standoff.....waiting for the first one to run out of money/drive. We won they fell and with it much of communism.

This is why it's so critical people understand no one wants wars but the people up top get to see some serious info regarding that they can't really share and then have to come out and sale a war. It's always in our best interest some just refuse to look at it...not pointing fingers just reminding people war isn't new as long as man is around there will be wars.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Do you play chess? Here is how you win at chess. You get a one-man advantage, and then start exchanging pieces, one-for-one, until you have two and your opponent has one. Then you win.

That is how we won the cold war. We had more money than the USSR, so we started exchanging pieces, until we still had money to buy weapons, and they didn't.

So, how do you like being pawns in this game that the big people play, to be exchanged one at a time until one Big Person wears down the other one.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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If you are a Yes voter, please give your reason why. It's good to hear all sides of the issue.
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we should realize that we shouldn't expect other countries not to develop weapons simply because we feel they are evil. We are seen as evil to other countries based upon our actions and we posess weapons of mass destruction."
The US has no right to tell another nation not to develop weapons when we have them
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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To unilaterally disarm all nuclear weapons would put us at a terrible risk
A terrible risk how?

Are you suggesting that Britain, France or Israel will turn on the US?

Pakistan did not win the gold medal for the shot-put event at the Beijing Olympics, so how exactly is Pakistan a threat?
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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A terrible risk how?

Are you suggesting that Britain, France or Israel will turn on the US?

Pakistan did not win the gold medal for the shot-put event at the Beijing Olympics, so how exactly is Pakistan a threat?
you cant be serious to propose a nation being inferior because they have not won a gold medal lol in shotput lol

also isreal has spied on the US. and most likely continue to do so...you dont know what people do.... allies become enemies and enemies become allies
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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allies become enemies and enemies become allies
Then why don't we just treat everybody with friendship and hospitality and dignity, the way Norway and New Zealand and Paraguay do? Instead of constantly striving above all to make fools of ourselves and either enemies or lapdogs of everybody else? And let them like us or not, according to their shifting whims. If Al Qaeda hates freedom, why don't they bomb Norway?
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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you cant be serious to propose a nation being inferior because they have not won a gold medal lol in shotput lol
The point was that while Pakistan has nuclear weapons, it is not threat to the US because Pakistan has no means to deliver their nuclear weapons, (unless they can somehow shot-put a 0.1 kt nuke to the US).
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