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Old 09-10-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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The answer is Both. If you think otherwise, you've bought into the "Republican Spin" that you're not American if you don't agree with EVERYTHING the president decides to do.

LIBERALS, REPUBLICANS, and INDEPENDANTS all support our troops. After all, it's our men and women over there fighting. The troops only go where the government sends them. The military isn't a democracy where the troops collectively vote where they'll go next. Everyone understands this.

Liberals think this is the land of Equal Rights where everyone has the right to do what makes them happy (as long as its legal) and to be treated fairly. That's the "back-bone" of Americans. Republicans believe it to (to an extent).

Let's forget all the infighting, band together, and do whats best for America. Let's be the Americans we all want to be.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Boise
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exactly... everyone expresses their views out of love for the country....
some just think they're more patriotic than others....
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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exactly... everyone expresses their views out of love for the country....
some just think they're more patriotic than others....
I disagree.

Some love the country for what she has always been. Others yearn for her to become something quite different.

You would seem to fall into the latter group, for example.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:31 PM
 
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I was about to agree with you but decided otherwise.

I believe the Constitution is an 'as is' document, smaller government, states rights, national defence and general welfare (aside, general welfare is support of a judiciary that rules on the intent of the Constitution not the fairness of life on earth, and certainly not redistribution of wealth). I don't think the fed has any business in the private lives of citizens. Yes, including that.

I believe that has historically been the basic intent of conservatives.
I believe liberals wish to 'interpret' the Constitution to suit the preferred needs of the moment, including judicial legislating by decision.
I think independents just wish we would all go away.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:36 PM
 
Location: in my house
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The answer is Both. If you think otherwise, you've bought into the "Republican Spin" that you're not American if you don't agree with EVERYTHING the president decides to do.

LIBERALS, REPUBLICANS, and INDEPENDANTS all support our troops. After all, it's our men and women over there fighting. The troops only go where the government sends them. The military isn't a democracy where the troops collectively vote where they'll go next. Everyone understands this.

Liberals think this is the land of Equal Rights where everyone has the right to do what makes them happy (as long as its legal) and to be treated fairly. That's the "back-bone" of Americans. Republicans believe it to (to an extent).

Let's forget all the infighting, band together, and do whats best for America. Let's be the Americans we all want to be.
Bravo!
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:36 PM
 
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Dissent is American, regardless of where it comes from.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Liberals,Conservatives and other don't even agree with each other all the time.


For instance,while some liberals might support the troops,some liberals don't like the ones in Berkeley who protest outside a Marine corps office shouting obsenities at them.

Some conservatives champion small government but when it comes to something they don't like they turn around and use government for their agenda like defining marriage.......
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Every American I have ever met is just about equally patroitic, in that they all have a genuine appreciation for what America was originally meant to stand for, they all have a desire to see America a wonderful country to live in, and they are willing to contribute as they can to make it a good place to live. They do not all agree on what it was meant to stand for, or how it can be wonderful, or how to go about making it a good place.

I once had a friend who was a career soldier, WWII vet, and the regional commander in the state Nationa Guard, and maybe the most conservative man I've ever known. We had lots of nice discussions. I once pointed out the window and asked him "If you had known this country would turn out like this, would you have fought for it?" He thought for a moment, and said "Maybe not."

Did that make him less patriotic? Or just indignant, that so many of his hopes and dreams for his country had gone unfulfilled.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: New Hampsha
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i think most people have the core values of democrats. its just some specific values that steer them towards the republicans
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: southern california
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being an american is about being a 2 party system
when we dont believe in 2 party system then we are more like pre WWII germany than america.
this hard right habit of calling into question anyones loyality to the country
who has doubts about foreign policy and budget this bothers me greatly.
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