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Old 12-31-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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This.

I find the practice repellent, but I champion natural individual rights, and among the most vital is ownership of self. Prostitution is a voluntary exchange between two consenting parties who both satisfy a rational self-interest and benefit from the trade as far they each measure benefit.

I find it objectionable in the extreme that a person can have the right to own their material goods protected by law, but the right to own their own body denied by law. Morality laws are a close second behind bureaucracy laws in the race for the title of Most Tyrannical Nonsense Possible.

Plus, the morality laws are always so wildly hypocritical and contradictory. We teach kindergartners about condoms and sex, we mandate birth control and abortifacients by law, and we have an entire industry dedicated to the clinical execution of the unborn based on the premise that a women's body is hers and nobody else's, but we outlaw a woman making a profit from the ownership of that body? Makes not one bit of sense in a country where so many laws protect damn near every other possible manifestation of immorality for prostitution to be illegal.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why don't we just legalize everything that is already illegal? Yea right there is a good reason why there is laws against prostitutution and drugs etc.


If there weren't clients called johns there wouldn't be prostitutes,so it is a two-way street
If wishes were fishes, we'd all have a fry.

There are always going to be prostitutes and johns. If legalization means greater safety and health for both, and contributes to the tax base as well, why not?

Nevada wasn't the only western state that allowed prostitution. Most of the others did as well, as a county option. Right now, prostitutes are illegal in Las Vegas and Reno; that's why the Bunny Ranch came into existence, as it's just across the county line where it is legal.

Prostitution as it is now is not a victimless crime. Girls and women are forced into it against their will, and become part of street violence. But if it was legalized, the white slavery, kidnappings, and violence wouldn't totally go away. That notion is too idealistic. We will always have criminals, and criminals prey on the weakest ones among us.

The criminal element would, however, become much diminished. All the police needed to enforce the present laws wouldn't be needed, but those who remain could turn all their attention to the pimps and kidnappers, and put them behind bars, where they belong. There would be no more strength in numbers for pimps.
Our taxes would go to effective arrests and convictions of the true criminals and not the round-ups that now accomplish nothing.

If it was contained in legal brothels, you wouldn't have to be offended by seeing street hookers any more. Removing some of the criminality off our streets wouldn't hurt, either.

If the work put some destitute women back on their feet and allowed them to keep their kids fed and in good shelter, I don't see that as being a bad thing, even if I don't patronize them. Adding another taxpayer to the rolls is fine with me, too.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Sex between two consenting adults for pay, in my opinion, should be legalized, licensed (health certs), and taxed. How is it right for the government to tell adults who they can and can't have sex with?


As an aside, some women, I've known several personally, exchange sex for money and status in marriage. Isn't that legalized pay to play?
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Sex between two consenting adults for pay, in my opinion, should be legalized, licensed (health certs), and taxed. How is it right for the government to tell adults who they can and can't have sex with?


As an aside, some women, I've known several personally, exchange sex for money and status in marriage. Isn't that legalized pay to play?

Just set up a video camera and claim you are "making a movie". That should eliminate the chance of being arrested for prostitution. Any money exchanging hands is daily wages.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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Just set up a video camera and claim you are "making a movie". That should eliminate the chance of being arrested for prostitution. Any money exchanging hands is daily wages.
That is a great point. Add a camera to the mix and call it "making pornography" and prostitution is perfectly legal in just about all of the US. Incorporate yourself as an S-Corp named Blah Blah Entertainment, and you could even 1099 your hookers if you wanted, and it would be perfectly legal with the camera there.

Or do what many business savvy ladies have done, and incorporate themselves as management/HR consultants, who then charge "consulting fees" for their services, and as long as they bring a laptop with some kind of management PowerPoint presentation, and actually run that slideshow at any point in the proceedings, that too is a legal consulting transaction.

Lots of ways that people already make prostitution legal. The laws against it just limit the economic viability of less business savvy people.
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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Yes.
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