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Old 09-12-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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I'm not confused. You haven't really read the OP. What's up for debate is clearly spelled out in the OP. You just side-stepped getting crap on your shoes. Sorry, support something like this and you're wading in (sh)it.
Not at all... the issue is should prostitution be legal, not should morality be legislated.

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In the real world, people realize most women don't become prostitutes due to aspiration and most probably aren't adults when they start either. So nice side-step again. I believe we should do everything possible to help women who feel the only thing they've got left to offer society is sex with a stranger.
Not so. I read an article about prostitution in Nevada and while I'm not going to argue that it's a majority, but quite a few had genius IQs and college degrees. The same applies to the porn industry. They turn to prostitution for the money, where they earn well in excess of 100k per year.

With regards to being a prostitute prior to adulthood, I guess you didn't read my previous reply to you. That's not prostitution, that's rape and child abuse. We already have laws on the books regarding this and should prosecute the perpetrators to the full extent of the law.

And finally, offering to help women who feel they have nothing left to offer society isn't mutually exclusive with legalized prostitution.

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See, I told you I wasn't the one confused.

We're not talking about criminalizing a single thing.

We're talking about DEcriminalizing.
You may have told me, but you haven't convinced me. Decriminalization versus criminialization is merely a function of the status quo of the law enforcement and prosecutors in an area.

Rather than decriminalization, I would propose removing the laws against prostitution.
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
 
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Not at all... the issue is should prostitution be legal, not should morality be legislated.
Sorry, pal.

Morality is legislated every single day.

In my tribe back in the bush of Amazon, it's an honor to kill your first born son to the god of banana trees.

Follow where I'm heading with that?
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:06 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Sorry, pal.

Morality is legislated every single day.

In my tribe back in the bush of Amazon, it's an honor to kill your first born son to the god of banana trees.

Follow where I'm heading with that?
Again, the question was, should prostitution be legalized, not should morality be legislated.
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Yet another wonderful example. 10-1 says you're a male. You just compared every woman's body to have the same value as her laundry and job. I bet you're a heckofa catch for some lucky lady.



Not needing a g/f because hookers are cheaper basically says women are only good for one thing--sex.
I give every woman's body the respect that she choses to give it herself.

If you would think through this quote, it might occur to you that a lot of guys use their girl-friend for sex, and try to get it free, but the girls are smarter than that. I guess it flew right over your head when I tried to imply that hookers (and girl friends) might be exploiting men?

Here's another quote, from "Absolutely Fabulous" Saffron: "Look at this porn magazine---it's so degrading to women" Patsy: "What do you mean? She's got the whip!".
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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When I was younger and more naive(closed minded) my answer would have been different. But now I see nothing wrong with legalizing prostitution.

Sex is a natural part of life and nothing to be ashamed of. If prostitution was legalized it could be regulated. It would become cleaner and safer. The prostitutes, who would be licensed, would be over 18 and would "choose" to do this.

There are some people in the world that might prefer going to prostitutes for a variety of reasons. They might not want the responsibility of a relationship, they might be socially awkward, they just might want sex, omg, without the attachments. I see nothing wrong with legalizing it.

And for those that thing it is demeaning for women who says all prostitutes are women?
That in itself is a narrow point of view.

It's not for me but I have no problem if consenting adults want to exchange money for sex. Isn't that what guys do all the time by spending money on a girl? Do you really think they don't want sex? I had an older relative that thought marriage was prostitution because she had to sleep with her husband- I felt sorry for her husband. It's sad when you think sex is a duty. No wonder people go to prostitutes.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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When I was younger and more naive(closed minded) my answer would have been different. But now I see nothing wrong with legalizing prostitution.

Sex is a natural part of life and nothing to be ashamed of. If prostitution was legalized it could be regulated. It would become cleaner and safer. The prostitutes, who would be licensed, would be over 18 and would "choose" to do this.
Well stated.



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There are some people in the world that might prefer going to prostitutes for a variety of reasons. They might not want the responsibility of a relationship, they might be socially awkward, they just might want sex, omg, without the attachments. I see nothing wrong with legalizing it.
I see no purpose trying to force religious beliefs onto others by weight of law.

I also see married men, who are not happy being celibate.

Celibacy is not a lifestyle that everyone is well suited for. So in those instances, either they are condemned to celibacy, or else adultery.

A legal, clean, safe and orderly option for those people would serve a purpose. And raise taxes as well.



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It's not for me but I have no problem if consenting adults want to exchange money for sex. Isn't that what guys do all the time by spending money on a girl? Do you really think they don't want sex? I had an older relative that thought marriage was prostitution because she had to sleep with her husband- I felt sorry for her husband. It's sad when you think sex is a duty. No wonder people go to prostitutes.

Just my 2 cents.
Again very well put.

I have seen that to.

In fact years ago, while reading Ann Landers' column I was shocked to read that attitude in her advice column. Exchanging money for sex was exactly how she described marriage.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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I do think that prostitution should be legalized and I think I have some pretty good reasons for taking that point of view. What is your opinion?
.. this is what an american is doing , if he was landing in European ..

1. to rent a car .. driving with more then 100 miles over the Autobahn
2. he is going to a prostitut ..

.. that`s the true .. so many friends told me .. "we have been in Amsterdam in the redlight district. we have had so much fun " ....
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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I think it should be legalized. I don't however want it legal in big cities like NYC, LA, or chicago.

Nevada was correct in making prostitution only illegal in its largest city...
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:04 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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I think it should be legalized. I don't however want it legal in big cities like NYC, LA, or chicago.

Nevada was correct in making prostitution only illegal in its largest city...
Just curious... why?
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Old 09-13-2008, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Prostitution doesn't hav any parallels. It's hard to say "Well, it's just like . . ." because by its nature, it is distinctly differnt from anythong else. That is what makes it problematic to deal with the question. One could, though, see a parallel between prostitution and dancing, and consider it alongide old laws that made dancing illegal, but even those only banned dancing in public. There was never a law againt paying someone to come and dance with you in the privacy of your own home.

What a civilized society has to do is just view it as an activity that takes place between consenting adults, and determine whether public safety is harmed by the activity. I don't think the tyranny of the majority has a right to ban anything merely because the majority is not interested personally in doing it. The majority needs a more compelling reason than that to ban an activity.
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