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I'm not a smoker, except for that wacky weed back in college, but I'm opposed to this new law. Why is that the casinos can smoke all they want, but the Mom and Pop Bars that are struggling with the 10% tax and the recession, now have to turn their smoking customers away? Gee, I dunno, money perhaps. How much coin is going into the pockets of our illustrious elected officials to allow smoking in casinos?
Just a quick note, but you even aside from the long term cancer risk, secondhand smoke also causes an immediate allergic reaction in some people, strongly affects some people's sense of smell and taste, and so forth. All that is sufficient legal grounds for treating smoking in enclosed public places as a "public nuisance" subject to a ban.
The basic fact smokers need to grasp is that their smoke is physically entering other people's bodies against their will, and they don't like how it affects them. And you don't have the right to impose such an outcome on other people in public places.
I agree with you, hence the real fair solution is to have smokers only bars
and restaurants. Unless you think smokers don't have a right to that!
Remember INCLUSION-INCLUSION-INCLUSION! United States Land of the
FREE and the Brave, Well I was brave, but I don't feel very free!
I do have to say that as much as I agree with smoking bans...the PA one is a little unfair in that Philadelphia gets to have a stronger one...and there are some loopholes allowing some places to have smoking and others not. That is what will be bad for businesses is that some are allowed to have smoking, and others are not. Should be all or none. And maybe the whole United States should have a ban...although I don't think I wanna witness the uproar that would bring.
I do not believe in prohibiiton, and it didn't work the last time it was tried, anyway. But I do have concerns for the employees at these hypothetical "smoking" bars and restaurants that people are always suggesting on these threads. Even if people are agreeing to work there, being aware of the hazards, it is not right to expose them to second-hand smoke. If you have people sign a waiver, you are admitting there is a problem, and waivers usually aren't worth the paper they're printed on, anyway. You could get sued for exposing them to a carcinogen and causing their cancer.
I do have to say that as much as I agree with smoking bans...the PA one is a little unfair in that Philadelphia gets to have a stronger one...and there are some loopholes allowing some places to have smoking and others not. That is what will be bad for businesses is that some are allowed to have smoking, and others are not. Should be all or none. And maybe the whole United States should have a ban...although I don't think I wanna witness the uproar that would bring.
Why does it have to all or none? It proves how idiotic and narrow minded
our Pa. legislators are. Logic and common sense tells you let the market
decide and everybody wins. Or is that too reasonable and simple? I'm
afraid big brother has to decide that for all of us, disregarding the market
and citizens right to choose. Maybe you are afraid the smokers bars will
do better than the non smokers bars! In Allegheny county that's a given.
That's why the establishment does'nt want free choice, it defeats their
agenda of control. Well they are still gonna lose because the drinkers
that spend "real money" wont go! Bars know where the serious income is
and it isn't from non smokers. We shall see in a year how many bars close.
In England they banned smoking and 70% of the pubs have closed.
In England they banned smoking and 70% of the pubs have closed.
That's not exactly true. While a larger number of pubs have closed in 2007 as compared to 2006 and 2005, it's nowhere near 70% of the total number of pubs in Britain. The economy is bad there as well as here, so it can't be entirely blamed on the smoking ban.
You're also not considering that a great number of non-smokers will start populating bars now that they don't have to stay home to avoid the smoke.
I love it and support it fully! I hated when I moved here and had to battle all the cigarette smoke if we wanted to go out and eat. I don't need to read any studies to know that it stinks, smoker's breath stinks, it makes my clothes stinks, and it make me cough. Smokers had their "rights" the first 200something years---now its my time now!
Smoking sections were a joke--like a peeing section in a pool.
Thank you for all the FACTUAL INFORMATION , but I'm certain the do gooders don't want factual truths. Their extreme lefist agendas are going
to ruin this country!
Things I can't do any more:
1 Drink over two beers without facing DUI charges.
2 Bet football games online.
3 Drink my "two beers" in a bar and converse with my friends. ( I could
say hold that thought While I go out in the cold and smoke) "I DON'T THINK SO"!
4 Go to a restaurant and enjoy a cigarette with my coffee after the meal
The things I enjoy list is getting shorter and shorter. The last straw will be
when the government trys to take all the law abiding citizens guns.!
It's called the majority. You can't drink and drive but the other 200 million can drive safely knowing noone is drunk on the road.
The MAJORITY of us can now eat in a restaurant without sitting next to someone chain smoking making us nauseas. The majority win over the minority and that is how it should be.
It's called the majority. You can't drink and drive but the other 200 million can drive safely knowing noone is drunk on the road.
The MAJORITY of us can now eat in a restaurant without sitting next to someone chain smoking making us nauseas. The majority win over the minority and that is how it should be.
I agree to a point. In this situation, I would say it's a public health issue, not a majority/minority issue.
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