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Last time I checked we have separation of church and state and I could careless what any catholic priest has to say on the subject.
Religious zealots like party hardliners love to quote chapter and verse when it supports their views and suffer selective memory loss when it doesn't.
We are a nation of laws. WE must have consequences for those who disregard our laws. Life in prison for brutal disregard of anothers right to life is not a just trade. Life in prison for ananimal that deliberately took the life of their victim with no regard no compassion for others does not deserve the compassion of society nor should they receive it.
You have your viewpoint that is at odds with the entire Western world [even Mexico & Canada refuse to execute]. If you prefer to be more in line with the Chinese & Iranian people than you need to admit that your thinking is similar to dictatorships or Communists
Just answer this: why do states & countries that do not have capital punishment have much lower crime rates than states that do execute?
Because severe penalties are enacted as necessary. Where a population has a low crime rate, there is no need for the death penalty.
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Capital punishment is nothing more than an emotional reaction that can not be justified/ substantiated by the facts.
I do not, as I believe you do, believe that all life is equal. The value of a murderers life is lower than that of someone else and I see nothing wrong with them dying. I do not believe that I'm here on this earth to help bring about Utopia and if I try really hard and listen to everyones feelings and hardships and try to fix them that the kingdom of Heaven will open here on earth.
I'm pragmatic. Cultures vary. Ours' has a very dark past from which the consequence cannot be understood. Perhaps the reason that we have a higher crime rate is because we're more willing to get violent.
It's too complex a subject for idle ranting... and you're too biased in a direction to give a report of any value.
BTW: If liberals stopped supporting Social Security and socialist health care, all of us might have more time to invest in your questions. However, as it stands, the left is pushing us for more resources so we can't waste our time on criminals.
You have your viewpoint that is at odds with the entire Western world [even Mexico & Canada refuse to execute]. If you prefer to be more in line with the Chinese & Iranian people than you need to admit that your thinking is similar to dictatorships or Communists
The death penalty is legal in many countries besides Iran and China, including South Africa, Taiwan, Japan, and India.
I find it ridiculous how whether it's right or wrong in principle in America almost isn't even a debate ... left and right, men and women, black and white, pretty much every side of American culture is mostly for it. The only real debate against it comes from the execution of innocent people ... other than that, even the activists here would be for it.
I think it's because crime is so high here, and so many people are victims of crime (myself included actually - I've been assaulted at age 4, and mugged once)
They get so angry that they want to forget that a criminal may have some good qualities, and would prefer to think of them all as evil, demonic trash.
It does disturb me how so few (probably like 1 in 5) Americans are opposed to it in principle. Do they ever think about what Ghandi would think of the death penalty, or MLK? I can understand why some people like the idea of putting criminals to death, but I DON'T understand why so many people think it's righteous, holy, nice, and good. It sickens me, sometimes you almost think the only types of people in the world are criminals and the people obsessed with killing them.
Because people are sick to death of criminals thinking they are above the law.....all the killings, crime is rampid...people are also very sick of the fact that criminals have the right to get a college degree while in prison, and live off of the taxpayers, tiled baths, tv's, computers, libraries.
While it may sicken you, there are many people who have been victims of crime or lost loved ones to crime and it is high time our laws once again become much more strict. Unless you've been a victim and walked in their shoes, you have no idea.
My cousin managed an Italian Deli...3 Mexicans came in...one with a gun, which he held to her head, one with a bat, and the other threw her to the floor and placed his foot on her back, pressing on her back...
They got her purse, and all her personal information....where she lives, her bank account, everything. You have someone like that hold a gun to YOUR head and see how YOU feel afterwards.
She had to go to counsiling because she was so afraid, she couldn't sleep at night. She feared them coming to get her.
While in court, their entire families showed up and sat there staring at each and every defendent, like saying to them, "We'll get YOU".
To this day, she is a nervous wreck...she has nightmares still....
Down the street from my sister, a woman was stabbed to death, right outside her house. My sister lives in a very afluent neighborhood.
People/kids, police officers are getting killed every single day in Philly...shootings galore...the crime is so bad there...
So, until you walk in someone else's shoes...don't judge.
It makes me even sicker then you to know that tonight, someone else is going to be killed
Try sitting on a commuter train and have a man pull out a bat and beat up some guy sitting next to you.
Try going shopping and have someone put a gun to your back while your walking out to your car and take your purse.
And how bout the cowards that break into some old person's home, robs them for a mere 10.00 and then beats them up, unrecognizably, or even worse, the sicko rapes her????
I swear...you people live in some protective plastic bubble away from the real world and have no clue what so ever, what is REALLY Going on out there.
Try all the scams that criminals do with the old folks, taking their money.
We had a cousin who lived in the city, and a couple, knocked at his door. He of course left them in...and they beat him up and stole his wallet, money, etc.
Maybe if you get sick now, you might want to spend a few nights in Philly and watch people get killed, and then tell me how sick you get.
Sorry, but sometimes ya gotta hit people with a 2 x 4 to get their attention.
Though there is the argument that some are sentanced and were innocent but fell through the cracks.
Are you referring to the monsters that got out and murdered more
innocent people because they didn't get the death penalty which would
have prevented more of these murders ?
Creme Brulee, I can respect your opinion because you've stated you're a victim. I probably would be for the death penalty too if I was a victim of something like that.
To everyone else, god. The typical American envys the Texas and Saudi Arabian justice system, and sees them as being judicial role models.
The arguments used for the death penalty, except for deterrence, which is in strong doubt, and monetary reasons (which isn't important, it's not like we're spending less on the war you support), are purely emotional. You always talk about the kid who was raped and killed or the most brutal murder to get the most vengeful effect out of people, and not the gang member who killed to feed his daughters (not that I condone that) and other cases where the people aren't nearly as monstrous.
If you want medieval justice, move to Saudi Arabia. They have plenty of that for you.
Creme Brulee, I can respect your opinion because you've stated you're a victim. I probably would be for the death penalty too if I was a victim of something like that.
To everyone else, god. The typical American envys the Texas and Saudi Arabian justice system, and sees them as being judicial role models.
The arguments used for the death penalty, except for deterrence, which is in strong doubt, and monetary reasons (which isn't important, it's not like we're spending less on the war you support), are purely emotional. You always talk about the kid who was raped and killed or the most brutal murder to get the most vengeful effect out of people, and not the gang member who killed to feed his daughters (not that I condone that) and other cases where the people aren't nearly as monstrous.
If you want medieval justice, move to Saudi Arabia. They have plenty of that for you.
One of the many reasons to be proud to be from Texas: we know how to throw away the key! Will see what happens in the near future with more and more illegals (i.e. criminals) flooding in unabated. And neither nutjob vying for the WH gives a damn.
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Will see what happens in the near future with more and more illegals (i.e. criminals) flooding in unabated. And neither nutjob vying for the WH gives a damn.
