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Old 09-17-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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OMAHA, Nebraska — A meatpacking plant has agreed to accommodate Muslim workers' request for prayer time during Ramadan, union officials said Wednesday.
Earlier this week 300 Muslim JBS Swift & Co. workers, most of Somali background, walked off the job in protest of the prayer dispute. No one was fired after the protest.
Dan Hoppes, president of the local United Food and Commercial Workers Union, said management at the plant has agreed to temporarily change the timing of the second-shift lunch break to accommodate workers wanting time to pray during the Muslim observance of Ramadan.
Workers previously took the 30-minute break in shifts. The change will force the entire line to break at once. The arrangement will be in effect the next nine working days, which will cover the remainder of Ramadan, Hoppes said.
A phone message left with company officials was not immediately returned Wednesday.
The plant employs about 2,500 people, not including management, Hoppes said. He estimates about 500 of the plant's workforce is Muslim.
More than 100 workers at a Greeley, Colorado, Swift plant were fired last week because the company said they walked away from work before their shifts ended. The workers blamed the company's refusal to allow their breaks to coincide with sunset so they could pray.
Here we go again! More "accommodations" to Muslims/Islamics just to "keep the peace"! Well..., we'll just add this to foot baths, prayer rooms, head coverings, etc, etc, etc...! In the not too distant future, work places will have more resemblance to a "Mosque" than a place of employment and Sharia Law will rule the work floor!

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Old 09-17-2008, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Here we go again! More "accommodations" to Muslims/Islamics just to "keep the peace"! Well..., we'll just add this to foot baths, prayer rooms, head coverings, etc, etc, etc...! In the not too distant future, work places will have more resemblance to a "Mosque" than a place of employment and Sharia Law will rule the work floor!

FOXNews.com - Union: Muslim Workers Reach Deal for Prayer Break - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
So they have no right to their religion? You chrisitans employ such double-standards.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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So they have no right to their religion? You chrisitans employ such double-standards.
The last time I checked, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Sieks, etc. didn't shut down an entire production line so they can roll out their prayer rugs to prayer to their God! Fear not, your "boy" BHO will win in November and all you Muslims/Islamics will get your own personal prayer room, which hopefully, will be in the restrooms!
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:30 PM
 
Location: mass
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Here we go again! More "accommodations" to Muslims/Islamics just to "keep the peace"! Well..., we'll just add this to foot baths, prayer rooms, head coverings, etc, etc, etc...! In the not too distant future, work places will have more resemblance to a "Mosque" than a place of employment and Sharia Law will rule the work floor!

FOXNews.com - Union: Muslim Workers Reach Deal for Prayer Break - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

First of all, this says that it changed the LUNCH BREAK so these people can pray.

They are not getting paid to pray. They are doing it on their lunch break.

Unions negotiate deals all the time for their members.

I see nothing wrong with this accommodation. If it were Christians that needed to pray, this wouldn't even be an issue.

Try making SUNDAY part of the regular workweek in this country and see how many people ask for accommodations!!!!!!!

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Old 09-17-2008, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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Workers previously took the 30-minute break in shifts. The change will force the entire line to break at once.

Please note that the entire production line will be shut down for the "prayer lunch". If you knew anything about meat processing, you would know that there is shut down and start up protocols for food processing that requires cleaning and sanitizing of the processing equipment and a loss of product at the beginning and end of production, hence the necessity to run a production line continuously once it's started. So to keep the peace with the Muslims/Islamics, the company if forced to absorb the costs of stopping and re-staring the production line additional times during the shift. Another "kiss ass" situation for the company and the union!

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Try making SUNDAY part of the regular workweek in this country and see how many people ask for accommodations!!!!!!!
Earth to "mommytotwo", millions of people work the weekend as part of their regular workweek, I did for many years! Smarten up!
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Your mind
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Damn this is is a stupid thread isn't it?
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:36 PM
 
Location: northeast headed southwest
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I don't think anyone should practice any religion. It's like believing in fairy tales after all.
But I know many people feel strongly that religion is an important part of their lives so alright, I guess I can go along with it.
Just don't try to make it seem like one religion is any better than another, because they are all ridiculous. Christianity, Islam, Scientology- a bunch of hooey.

But if people want to pray on their lunch breaks, I certainly couldn't care less.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:48 PM
 
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First of all, this says that it changed the LUNCH BREAK so these people can pray.

They are not getting paid to pray. They are doing it on their lunch break.

Unions negotiate deals all the time for their members.

I see nothing wrong with this accommodation. If it were Christians that needed to pray, this wouldn't even be an issue.

Try making SUNDAY part of the regular workweek in this country and see how many people ask for accommodations!!!!!!!
Have been outside on Sundays? do you see all the open shops, people working? I guess those people aren't Christians.

Hey look, some public schools in California will have separate prayer room to accommodate Muslims students. A room of which I, as a tax payer will fork the bill, so what? I mean, why stop there, let's forget about anything America, and lets accommodate everybody, so what?. Before we know it, Sharia laws will be in place, much like in Londonstan, so what?
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:06 PM
 
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Damn, you're an "intelligently challenged" OP, aren't you?
Correct, the people who challenge me do it very intelligently-- they always trick me into trying to fulfill their challenges with their tricky clever ways, and I just don't know what to do about it man. As one challenge I've been arguing with myself all week about whether I should take the day off for Christmas this year, considering how unethical it would be to assume that my cultural heritage allows me to shirk my responsibilities in such an outrageous fashion. What an ethical dilemma!
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How about we ban all government recognition of anything religious hmm? There, now it is fair for everyone and I, as an agnostic, can finally stop hearing you religious folks fkin yipping at each other.
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