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Old 09-22-2008, 02:45 PM
 
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Acountability, whether it be on the federal, state, local or personal level. Somewhere along the line we ceased being a country of individualists and became a whiny, corrupt collective.






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45-million citizens have no health insurance. About that many are living in poverty. About that many need a job, and there is none for them. That is a much larger number than the immigrants. The American people have no heart to take care of their own, and will never do so, whether or not there are immigrants. Hell will freeze over before most of the posters on this board will give up a single NetFlix title to help the Americans who need someone to take care of their tragic and desperate needs.
Well, the figures of illegals are anywhere between 12-30 million, so by your accounting that would free up about half of those people from their 'tragic and desperate needs'.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Well, the figures of illegals are anywhere between 12-30 million, so by your accounting that would free up about half of those people from their 'tragic and desperate needs'.
But America is so poor that we cannot find a way to ameliorate their misery now, and things are going down hill. So even without illegal aliens, what would be the prospects for attaining this lofty goal? Every effort in that direction is immediately and vigorously obstructed by the greedy and selfish, who, sadly , constitute the majority of the American people.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Make every student take at least 2 years of political science and understand ISSUES before they graduate high school and are old enough to vote! Then maybe the right people will get voted into office one day!
What good would they do? We make them take more than 2 years of reading and writing, and they do not become proficient in that. We make them take 2 years of geography, and they can't find the Atlantic Ocean on a map of Maine.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:42 PM
 
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Stop stealing
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
 
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Cut your t.v. watching by 50%

With all those new free hours there's so much you can do:

Read.
Spend time talking and playing with your family. Get to know them.
Make some new friends and reconnect with some old friends.
Instead of screwing around---well, stop it. Life is so short, get real.
Help out a neighbor.
Get some folks together and go pick apples, ride horses, or go swimming
Stop eating junk food, a little at a time.
Make yourself over - in ways that matter: Strengthen your character, do the right thing and don't make excuses.
Adopt a philosophy of moral courage and personal responsibility.
Hike outside town limits and watch the sun rise. Or set.
Play a game of backyard football. Girls against the boys!
Listen to music that was written at least 50 years, and then check out the really old stuff.
Listen to some talk radio at the liberal end of the FM dial.
Develop a rich vocabulary and replace the easy hyperbole with wit. Exchew sarcasm as a form of humor.
Grow up, grow beyond toilet humor and dick jokes. Nothing requires less intelligence or creativity than references to biological functions. Whoopdidoo. Boring.
Take a class and learn how to do something you've always wanted to learn, but never made the time.

Be good to others.
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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UHC to control healthcare costs, and I'd make a whole bunch of you come along on a bicycle ride with me every day. Dont worry, we only go 20 miles or so.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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Wow.....there are some really good suggestions on this thread. Maybe we should all head for Washington and take over.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:20 PM
 
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But America is so poor that we cannot find a way to ameliorate their misery now, and things are going down hill. So even without illegal aliens, what would be the prospects for attaining this lofty goal? Every effort in that direction is immediately and vigorously obstructed by the greedy and selfish, who, sadly , constitute the majority of the American people.
So, since we cannot make everybody happy, let us all live in misery? By any chance are you a stalinist?

I do agree with your last statement with this adjustment "every effort in that direction is immediately and vigorously obstructed by the greedy and selfish, who sadly constitute the vast majority of american politicians, regardless or in spite of their political affiliation.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:31 PM
 
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45-million citizens have no health insurance. About that many are living in poverty. About that many need a job, and there is none for them.
Every American or immigrant should have a basic understanding of math before they graduate or are granted a Visa. No math, no graduation or Visa. Also, every American should have to take a class in basic common sense. Oh, and know how to use Google as a basic research tool. Liberals should have to take it twice.

PS, 45 million unemployed? 45/156 = 28% unemployment rate. A quick trip to the BLS indicates that 3.6 million were unemployed this past labor day. Also, they indicate 82% of full-time workers are covered by health insurance. Looks like you would fail the common sense and the math tests. Do you even read what you post?
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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So, since we cannot make everybody happy, let us all live in misery? By any chance are you a stalinist?

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I never said happy. I said we can make everybody live generally free of misery. We can, but we don't, because the majority is comfy, afflicted with greed and selfishmess, and doesn't want the rest to be.
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