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Old 10-01-2008, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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What do you all think of banning smoking in restaurants and other public places? Many states are doing this now.

Here is my take on it. "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool."

 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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What do you all think of banning smoking in restaurants and other public places? Many states are doing this now.

Here is my take on it. "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool."
My take on it is that private property owners should dictate the rules of their establishment. People who disagree with the rules should take their business elsewhere.

And for the record, I don't smoke, can't stand smoke, and don't patronize establishments where I can smell smoke while waiting for a table, or sitting at a table. But instead of infringing upon the liberty of the property owners, I choose to reward businesses who provide services which I value, and punish those that don't with a lack of patronage.
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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My take on it is that private property owners should dictate the rules of their establishment. People who disagree with the rules should take their business elsewhere.

And for the record, I don't smoke, can't stand smoke, and don't patronize establishments where I can smell smoke while waiting for a table, or sitting at a table. But instead of infringing upon the liberty of the property owners, I choose to reward businesses who provide services which I value, and punish those that don't with a lack of patronage.
Your logic is faulty in that you could apply it to a variety of different cases besides just smoking. Should private business owners be able to kick blacks out too? Or allow people to get completely trashed, without calling a taxi?
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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My take on it is that private property owners should dictate the rules of their establishment. People who disagree with the rules should take their business elsewhere.

And for the record, I don't smoke, can't stand smoke, and don't patronize establishments where I can smell smoke while waiting for a table, or sitting at a table. But instead of infringing upon the liberty of the property owners, I choose to reward businesses who provide services which I value, and punish those that don't with a lack of patronage.
Spoken like a true American. I, like you, and like the founding fathers of this great nation am very anti-authority. I don't like laws from a far away and largely irrelevant capital telling me I can't do things.
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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My take on it is that private property owners should dictate the rules of their establishment. People who disagree with the rules should take their business elsewhere.

And for the record, I don't smoke, can't stand smoke, and don't patronize establishments where I can smell smoke while waiting for a table, or sitting at a table. But instead of infringing upon the liberty of the property owners, I choose to reward businesses who provide services which I value, and punish those that don't with a lack of patronage.
Without government interference, consumers would influence the design of future restaurants that would incorporate a central kitchen with separate dining areas each with a separate entrance to conveniently accommodate both types of customers, and everyone is happy.
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I have no problem banning smoking in restaurants. I do draw the line at bars though. Even my mother, my mother who is totally pure & never smoked, has COPD or however you spell it & had pneumonia 3 times is against banning smoking in bars. I couldn't even believe it when she said that one!
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Your logic is faulty in that you could apply it to a variety of different cases besides just smoking. Should private business owners be able to kick blacks out too? Or allow people to get completely trashed, without calling a taxi?
It's strange that you call it faulty. It's something called freedom, which I know is a foreign idea to many Americans.

Do I have any right to tell you who to invite into your home? If you don't want any blonde haired green eyed women in your home for some reason, it's no business of mine.

But your neighbors have every right in the world to judge you based upon your prejudices.
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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It's strange that you call it faulty. It's something called freedom, which I know is a foreign idea to many Americans.

Do I have any right to tell you who to invite into your home? If you don't want any blonde haired green eyed women in your home for some reason, it's no business of mine.

But your neighbors have every right in the world to judge you based upon your prejudices.
Okay, so by your logic, private business owners should be able to ban blacks from entering their establishments if they want to, right?
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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I think smoking should be banned in restaurants and bars. Same with rats, salmonella, cockroaches, improperly cooked meats, and cross contamination of food in the kitchen. But I'm kinda picky that way.
 
Old 10-01-2008, 08:47 PM
 
Location: In a house
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What do you all think of banning smoking in restaurants and other public places? Many states are doing this now.

Here is my take on it. "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool."
Heres my take on it. A restaurant isn't a public place. Its a private place open to the public. People are free to come & go as they choose. Its up to the owner of the establishment whether or not to permit smoking.
Granting a state the power to dictate legal activity on private property is pretty stupid.
What about when they decide you cant smoke in your home because its conceivable, likely even that at some point someone might need to come into your poisonous home.

Its not like having a peeing section in a pool but anti smoking movements are usually about as intelligent as one would be.

Ban it in public places, municipal buildings & the like but mind your buisness regarding private property.
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