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Old 10-08-2008, 08:38 PM
 
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[quote=mhouse2001;5611075]While the criticisms of the American population have merit, I question the source of the problem. What if it's induced? What if we've been manipulated to be fat, lazy, non-thinkers with short attention spans? Isn't that kind of population the best kind to control, the easiest to move in directions against its own interests?




At least somebody has a brain!
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:14 PM
 
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I understand where Fairfaxian is coming from, but in the real world, what will really happen is we'll revert back to the law of the jungle. People with more leverage (physical, financial, social, etc...) will take from and dominate those with "Less". Poor people will form mobs and try to loot the rich. Rich people will hire merciniaries to control the poor. Race relations break down, family units either tighten or crumble, and society as we know it begins to unravel.

People think we're somehow going to return back to "Leave it to Beaver". In reality, when your survival is on the line, we could see our cities become more like "Black Hawk Down". In the end, people will look out for Number 1, it's basic natural law. 80 years of Soviet communisum didn't make Russia a cuturally egiltarian paradise, it did the opposite.

In the end, either you believe the golden rule or you don't. No economic system can change that, only faith in something higher.....
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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When the television and the internet is taken away, you will see a change in America. Until then, we'll sit here and type about all the things we watch on tv and how it's wrong. We won't do a damn thing about it.

Anybody got the new iPod yet?
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:10 PM
 
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I thought it was just too easy to buy a big screen tv!
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:40 PM
 
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[quote=Morphous01;5611165][quote=mhouse2001;5611075]While the criticisms of the American population have merit, I question the source of the problem. What if it's induced? What if we've been manipulated to be fat, lazy, non-thinkers with short attention spans? Isn't that kind of population the best kind to control, the easiest to move in directions against its own interests?




At least somebody has a brain![/quote

Right ;its the aliens.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:48 PM
 
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I understand where Fairfaxian is coming from, but in the real world, what will really happen is we'll revert back to the law of the jungle. People with more leverage (physical, financial, social, etc...) will take from and dominate those with "Less". Poor people will form mobs and try to loot the rich. Rich people will hire merciniaries to control the poor. Race relations break down, family units either tighten or crumble, and society as we know it begins to unravel.

People think we're somehow going to return back to "Leave it to Beaver". In reality, when your survival is on the line, we could see our cities become more like "Black Hawk Down". In the end, people will look out for Number 1, it's basic natural law. 80 years of Soviet communisum didn't make Russia a cuturally egiltarian paradise, it did the opposite.

In the end, either you believe the golden rule or you don't. No economic system can change that, only faith in something higher.....
This is the reality I ultimately see for most of America hopefully if (and yes, I say hopefully if) this nation spirals into a depression - and that goes double for the soulless region that I live in. And to those who have lived in the Great Depression, you may have had to learn to do without and you may have had to deal with working for much less than you should earn, but I'm at least sure that in the 1930s, all of you had each other to hang onto. That "we" mentality has all but vanished so far in the 21st century, and if you had the chance to experience life at my age, you'll realize how much more "things that truly brought happiness" all of you probably had during the great Depression versus the "materialistic and shallow" things we have as our alternative today. And the major reason we cling onto these things is for the most part, people are no longer "humans" but just soulless droids who seek self-satisfaction, look out for numero-uno, and see one having a soul as a sign of weakness and unattractiveness while only showing kindness to those just as or even more arrogant and self-centered (and that's before adding the "American factors" of determining self-worth such as race, religion, and nationality). These are the reasons why I wish America falls into a Great (if not Grave) Depression, not to see families who live by the golden rule and are humanly as possible suffer - they've been doing more than enough of that for over eight years. It's these over-splurged, nouveau rich, self-conceited, pompous, intolerant, narrow-minded, life-sucking, trust-fund having individuals (and their kids) who I want to feel what nearly everyone else had felt for the past eight years while I had to deal with them showing off their faces and worthless lives on MTV, the internet, my campus, and nearly everywhere else (including my dreams...or should I say nightmares). And for one, I just want this nightmare known as the 2000s America come to an end! Whatever it takes!!!
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:28 AM
 
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You are so right! But the recreation will only happen if the people take control. I suggest people closely watch the DVD V for Vendetta. My sons hisory class showed this DVD to the students and then they had a week of discussion relating it to what has and is going on in this country. Fear controls people, goverment uses fear. There will always be the elite control unless the people stand up together as a whole.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:40 AM
 
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This is the reality I ultimately see for most of America hopefully if (and yes, I say hopefully if) this nation spirals into a depression - and that goes double for the soulless region that I live in. And to those who have lived in the Great Depression, you may have had to learn to do without and you may have had to deal with working for much less than you should earn, but I'm at least sure that in the 1930s, all of you had each other to hang onto. That "we" mentality has all but vanished so far in the 21st century, and if you had the chance to experience life at my age, you'll realize how much more "things that truly brought happiness" all of you probably had during the great Depression versus the "materialistic and shallow" things we have as our alternative today. And the major reason we cling onto these things is for the most part, people are no longer "humans" but just soulless droids who seek self-satisfaction, look out for numero-uno, and see one having a soul as a sign of weakness and unattractiveness while only showing kindness to those just as or even more arrogant and self-centered (and that's before adding the "American factors" of determining self-worth such as race, religion, and nationality). These are the reasons why I wish America falls into a Great (if not Grave) Depression, not to see families who live by the golden rule and are humanly as possible suffer - they've been doing more than enough of that for over eight years. It's these over-splurged, nouveau rich, self-conceited, pompous, intolerant, narrow-minded, life-sucking, trust-fund having individuals (and their kids) who I want to feel what nearly everyone else had felt for the past eight years while I had to deal with them showing off their faces and worthless lives on MTV, the internet, my campus, and nearly everywhere else (including my dreams...or should I say nightmares). And for one, I just want this nightmare known as the 2000s America come to an end! Whatever it takes!!!
I feel your pain, as both a disablied person and being mixed race, anyone outside the mainstream is seen as a "threat" and "freak". However, economic calamity isn't going to make that better, it will make it worse.
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Just decided to "kick this one upstairs", to se if anyone wanted to add anything after five years "in the slow cooker".

Bump! -- as some of the trolls might say.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:10 AM
 
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The OP is like 98% spot on in his OP.

But his other posts underneath are more like 99.4% spot on.

It's real scary the truth that he says. I know its true, you know its true, but there is nothing anyone can do; certainly not my fat ass.
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