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And how is it you confuse socialism with fascism or feudalism? A good socialist state will guarantee you your healthcare and retirement, but what's actually happening here is a small cabal is looting your govt coffers.
There's nothing going on here that removing a couple thousand govt crooks and returning some real American patriots to govt can't cure. But even if we were so lucky to have that happen, like Franklin said, " a republic, if you can keep it." The royals will not give up their thrones to a vote.
Bush called the Constitution "a god-damned piece of paper." That's what we're dealing with.
What we are dealing with is a bunch of morons who want to pretend that they don't have to get off their behinds to make a buck. They work for unions and wal-mart or graduated from MIT and biatch every stretch of the way. NOONE is OWED ANYTHING in this country...unless you're a veteran of the US Military.
Get off your arse and work for a living.
Don't want to?
No me problemo. Lo siento. Bite me.
And Clinton asked for "sex" to be defined. So do you REALLY want to go to war over who said what and "what we're dealing with" ?
(what Monica should have done)
Now lets get to today...Obama is a liar who denied time and time again who he is and he has ties to Acorn and domestic terrorists...your turn...
...and should you defend Obama...prove he's not a liar and didn't/does not have ties to Acorn and a domestic terrorist (didn't bring up the racist church he went to for 20 years....good luck defending that other that saying Obama slept through every service...)
What we are dealing with is a bunch of morons who want to pretend that they don't have to get off their behinds to make a buck. They work for unions and wal-mart or graduated from MIT and biatch every stretch of the way. NOONE is OWED ANYTHING in this country...unless you're a veteran of the US Military.
Get off your arse and work for a living.
Don't want to?
No me problemo. Lo siento. Bite me.
And Clinton asked for "sex" to be defined. So do you REALLY want to go to war over who said what and "what we're dealing with" ?
(what Monica should have done)
Now lets get to today...Obama is a liar who denied time and time again who he is and he has ties to Acorn and domestic terrorists...your turn...
...and should you defend Obama...prove he's not a liar and didn't/does not have ties to Acorn and a domestic terrorist (didn't bring up the racist church he went to for 20 years....good luck defending that other that saying Obama slept through every service...)
Wow, that's a whole lot of ignorant.
Acorn? They gave me several thousand dollars to help me buy my first home. I LIKE Acorn.
Easy yes, effective no. I live in the reddest of red states, and my congressman (Ron Paul) is running unopposed, the only name on the ballot. So please explain to me how my vote has any effect. I already know how easy it is. All I have to do is prove that I am who I say I am, prove that I am white, prove that I am not an illegal alien, prove that I am not a convicted felon, prove that I live where I say I live, prove that I have not voted somewhere else, stand in line for several hours in a largely minority precinct with only one or two voting machines, . . . . . . .
I was thinking more like an old, married but living apart couple with a house in NY state and one in Washington DC. And an old cat that smells like Socks.
Get over it.
They're not in the running.
Don't forget that the Bush family supported Hitler. (At least I'm talking about a seated (p)resident).
Easy yes, effective no. I live in the reddest of red states, and my congressman (Ron Paul) is running unopposed, the only name on the ballot. So please explain to me how my vote has any effect. I already know how easy it is. All I have to do is prove that I am who I say I am, prove that I am white, prove that I am not an illegal alien, prove that I am not a convicted felon, prove that I live where I say I live, prove that I have not voted somewhere else, stand in line for several hours in a largely minority precinct with only one or two voting machines, . . . . . . .
Oh honey please. If you think you live in the reddest of states, you haven't been to Kansas or Utah. If you don't like it, why don't you move? You can always write in your choice of candidate on your ballot.
Or maybe you should just stay home. It really sounds to me like your problem is that you don't like standing in line in your "largely minority precinct".
What has happened in the USA over the last 30 years since the conservative movement gained unprecedented power is this; A trickle has tuned in a flood of money being drained from the poor and middle class to the wealthy and corporations- sort of like a reverse Robin Hood syndrome.
As Marx once said, this was the primary reason in the end the masses would rebel against the proletariat, and would doom ultra capitalist states. But it also doomed the most extreme form of communism where power was also concentrated to a very rich and powerful few.
Hybrid Socialist/Capitalist states have universal health care- something any wealthy post industrial nation should have for its citizens. This is why the Republican party offers no change at all in the welfare of Americans. The far right, and the Republican party still sees health care as a privilege or responsibility- a totally racist and antiquated view.
Social safety nets- basic human rights are something any nation that aspires to ethics and decency should provide its citizens. The USA sort of now resembles a Fascist state with its social Darwin like views of only the strong survive and the weak can parish- The Nazis took this a step further by exterminating those not 'acceptable' to 'Aryan Ideals'.
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What we are dealing with is a bunch of morons who want to pretend that they don't have to get off their behinds to make a buck. They work for unions and wal-mart or graduated from MIT and biatch every stretch of the way. NOONE is OWED ANYTHING in this country...unless you're a veteran of the US Military.
What we are dealing with is ignorance and denial on a colossal scale. Everyone is owed a great deal in this country. Go read the Constitution for starters. Your problem lies in being too self-absorbed, stingy, and greedy to want to pick up even a part of your share of that tab. Apparently, the Garden State sometimes bears bitter fruits.
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Get off your arse and work for a living. Don't want to? No me problemo. Lo siento. Bite me.
While more would like to, 154.7 million people currently hold jobs in this country. The population is 305.4 million people. That leaves 150.7 million people standing in line to bite you. Maybe they should all do it at once.
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And Clinton asked for "sex" to be defined. So do you REALLY want to go to war over who said what and "what we're dealing with" ?
Since you bring it up, it was Paula Jones' attorneys who, upon their own initiative, wrote the definition of sexual relations, subject to the approval of Judge Wright. It's fun to know the facts. Make a note to experiment with that sometime...
What has happened in the USA over the last 30 years since the conservative movement gained unprecedented power is this; A trickle has tuned in a flood of money being drained from the poor and middle class to the wealthy and corporations- sort of like a reverse Robin Hood syndrome.
The Capitalists say Go stand guard against the Socialists, who would take your hard-earned things and give them to others. And while you are out guarding, the Capitalists take your hard-earned things and keep them for themselves. There are an awful lot of people out there who have been guilty of some serious Poor Decisionmaking® in this regard, and some of them still don't realize it...
The irony of the original message is that this (I assume) red-blooded American democracy loving capitalist has invoked the same tactic of Lenin and Mao. First get rid of all of the elites, number one rule for any would be authoritarian. Or as Shakespeare wrote (more or less) first thing to do is kill all the lawyers. Of course once that is done you can re-create the law to read however you wish it to read with no opposition. And the mobs, which generally are whipped up at the Marie Antoinette class will follow willingly down the rabbit hole. French revolution. Anyone have a guillotine handy?
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(what Monica should have done)
