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In 2006 the Journal of the American Medical Assosciation had the results of a study that showed that the british were healthier than americans. It was quite a shock to many people In the US medical community who thought that american medical care was the best In the world.
In fact according to the WHO world medical ranking, america Is In 37th position just above Slovenia, No 1 Is France a socialist country.
I have a friend In Delaware, a few years ago his father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, they were a middle class family.
When the medical Insurance ran out they spent their savings, the money put by for college, and then their house. When he died not only had he, and his family, lost a father & husband, they were almost destitute.
So I'll take socialised medicine every time.
In 2006 the Journal of the American Medical Assosciation had the results of a study that showed that the british were healthier than americans. It was quite a shock to many people In the US medical community who thought that american medical care was the best In the world.
In fact according to the WHO world medical ranking, america Is In 37th position just above Slovenia, No 1 Is France a socialist country.
I have a friend In Delaware, a few years ago his father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, they were a middle class family.
When the medical Insurance ran out they spent their savings, the money put by for college, and then their house. When he died not only had he, and his family, lost a father & husband, they were almost destitute.
So I'll take socialised medicine every time.
Move to France then!
This is America... how many of those healthy people in Brittan flew to the U.S. for treatment?
You also have to take a look at who did the study... who do they support politically, where do they get the most money or have the most interests!
If these countries that have socialism or communism are so great then every person that feels that way should go where they feel is best! America was set up with certain freedoms that have been taken from us time and time again! A lot of us are getting sick of it! We are supposed to have minimal government!
France would love to have so many "open minded" people living there, from here!
It's inevitable. Conservatism is built on hard work and a sense of individual responsibility, not a Borg hive mentality. But that is exactly what our shcool teachers (generally) preach ("The good of the one can and should be sacrificed for the good of the many": Spock, loosely..).
And of course, "W" Bush, rumsfeldt, rice and Cheney have pretty much pooped in the nest, so to speak. Do they realize just how much damage they have done? It's almost unrecoverable! I'm infuriated!
Plus witness the quickly changing demographic (a huge majority of future voters will be urban or city dwellers. Bees in the collective, etc.). How much input and influence will a Dakota wheat farmer, a Wyoming cattle rancher or a WA St. potato grower and entrepreneur have in future elections. Barrie Obama wants, indeed, demands, a re-distribution of wealth. Hey, what lazy new-ager, white-wired into his/her iPod reality, wants to be held accountable for personal actions? Or wants to experience actual hard work? Better you take one small step backwards into the anonimity of the hive and point to someone, anyone (!), else when things inevitably don't go quite as promised!
To the social health care comments above; in a nutshell, I can tell you horror stories about Canada's self-aggrandized health care. I have mentioned it on other posts; suffice to say "survival" isn't the only criterion for comparison of health care systems. We have major problems here with the greedy insurance companies, but medical technology isn't one of those problems. We do need some changes here, pronto, but not to the extent of Hillary's ideas. We'll see what BHO REALLY puts forward for the sole purpose of gaining votes. Ahhhh relentless greed; seems to be everywhere!
Now give me my "free" drugs, man! And a warm, clean shoot-up room! (see: Vancouver, BC., Canada).
Socialism is the next option to people who are no longer able to govern themselves due to greed and selfishness. With that in mind, yes....America is now on it's way.
my libertarian two cents sides with Ron Paul and that if socialism is sweeping into america, you can place the blame solely at the feet of cheney and sidekick george'big hat no cattle' bush. There massive increase in government spending, the recent $700 billion in corporate welfare, the patriot act attack on your liberties, has and will cause an unfortunate slip to the left that communist China will barely be able to contain their victory dance. Seriously I'm sure China would gladly take the geopolitically important Hawaii off your hands in exchange for forgiving your debt all for the sake of chasing terrorist ghosts and islamic ghoulies in third world countries that according the the American conservative magazine's Eric margolis pointed out, a full third of flyover country couldn't find a map.
[ Turning our healthcare and well being over to “the government” is not my idea of a great solution… look at how well they run everything else that they get a hold of! ]
Go ahead. Convince me that you are happy with the way the private insurance companies run everything they get a hold of.
At least, the government would not pay millions of dollars to attorneys and medical specialists whose 9-5 job is to try to find every way possible to deny every claim.
Mcmastersteve, please explain to me how you think the Patriot Act is an example of socialism "sweeping into the country". You do know the difference between socialism and fascism, right? If you don't please scroll back to post #97. The fact that Bush named it the "Patriot Act" and not the "Fascist Act" does not make it so.
Socialism is rampant in many parts of the country as it is... and the stupid thing about it is many people think enabling the lazy and/or untalented it a GOOD thing... as if everyone should get something for doing absolutely nothing except breathing. The only people that should get something for nothing is children and the disabled. Everyone else... take a college course in economics, start a business or at the very least... go fill out a job application for a better paying job... go contribute something from society and stop looking to the government for answers. If you can't succeed in this country... then you can't succeed anywhere.
No ...It`s ARE children and disabled...I have to say you have no idea what Socialism is. Let alone whether it would lower itself by going to America,,
The patriot act for instance gives the government the authority to arrest and detain any American citizen suspected of terrorist affiliations without solid evidence. This is a suspension of habeas corpus protected by the constitution. Even more police state like; the patriot has no guarantee of a time limit for its suspension of rights. Thomas Jefferson almost was thrown in jail as an opponent of the patriot acts predecessor the sedition act of 1798. The patriot act actually would make stalin and hitler proud, simple replace the indirect references to Arabs with Jews and enemies of the cheka. The United Nation has gone on record as stating the patriot act violates international law and the geneva conventions(banning torture). For an entertaining critique of the patriot act I would suggest watching Penn and Teller's season 3 expose.
The UK government have just been denied the option of 42 days detention without charge, an increase from 28 days. The argument against was that nowhere else in the world had the option of such a prolonged period. It`s a very diverse and complicated subject..The UK have to charge after 28days..The US can charge without what would be seen as evidennce to the CPS in the UK..
jtur88, I tend you use Columbia university's professor Robert Paxton and his book the anatomy of fascism for my definition of fascism. There of course are major differences within the ideologies of socialism and fascism, most important, socialism isn't considered authoritarian. However in context at the present time Mccain and several neoconservative media lapdogs are using the term to describe Obama's campaign as the route to a more authoritarian state. I only offer my observation that the two worst self declared 'socialist' dictators would find more in common with neo-conservative world policy at the moment than with Obama. The basic simplistic distinguishing difference between conservatism and socialism is reflected in its principles. Socialists beleive in a Hands on approach to the economy and conservatives tend to believe in a hands off approach
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...I have to say you have no idea what Socialism is. Let alone whether it would lower itself by going to America,,
