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Old 10-16-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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Can you provide any evidence of that? Democrats are infamous for their get-out-the-fraud-vote. Why do you think they always, always object to voters proving who they are?

And republicans are infamous for their suppression of legitimate voters:
2004 and 2000 was full of it, sure to come in 2008.

Just because republicans try to distract with voter REGISTRATION "fraud" doesn't mean they will get away with real VOTING suppression fraud.

Partisan Contractors to Count Votes in Illinois, Colorado and Kentucky | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Democratic Election Protection Strategy's Missing Link: Electronic Vote Counts | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Republicans monkey-wrenching the US election vote | World news | guardian.co.uk
/democratic_election_protection_strategy%27s_missin g_link%3A_electronic_vote_counts?page=entire
Republicans Challenge 6,000 Voter Registrations in Montana | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Michigan Ordered to Restore Purged Voters | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/democracy/103246/michigan_ordered_to_restore_purged_voters/ - broken link)
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/democracy/98702/gop_voter_suppression_comes_to_wisconsin/ (broken link)
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Thank you.

It's really this simple.
Not really but then, you and the others think election, voter and registration fraud is ok as long as it is for Democrats. LOLOLOLOL Gotta love it. I am so glad that I dislike both parties because I see what they both produce as fans.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:05 PM
 
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Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_fbi_1 - broken link)



Excellent. Time to rein in this organization and their criminal practices that have been going on for years.

I don't trust any branch of government anymore. They all seem to have OBAMA ties. Everywhere I look there will be an OBAMA tie. When OBAMA becomes President, everything will be an OBAMA tie. We're stuck. Everything will be corrupt like Chicago, IL, his state.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I don't trust any branch of government anymore. They all seem to have OBAMA ties. Everywhere I look there will be an OBAMA tie. When OBAMA becomes President, everything will be an OBAMA tie. We're stuck. Everything will be corrupt like Chicago, IL, his state.
The problem, of course, is the fact that our country is already as corrupt as Chicago.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:21 PM
 
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Ignorant lad, it doesn't. Unless you can make human clones to cast votes.


Voter suppression fraud is however easier and mastered by rove.

So they're doing it for their health? Kennedy CHEATED, that did his body good, didn't it?
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:45 PM
 
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except that he worked for them, was a "community organizer" through them and trained ACORN's. or that he has earmarked a ridiculous amount of money to them. also donated "questionably" money to them through shell companies.
Not that I don't dispute some of the aforementioned, but how is this even relevant to the registration fraud, which as has already been pointed out, leads to no additional votes. You make ACORN out to be some nefarious organization that no politician should dare touch. Perhaps, you meant the Illuminati?

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of course someone claimed ACORN turned themselves in. only they have been caught before several times since the 80's. they are very efficient in there tactics.
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pick up homeless give em hot meals, have them fill out so cards and instruct who they need to vote for to get another meal election day.
Isn't that what politics is all about? Wining and dining party constituents. If a politician came over and offered me a Fajita plate at Chilis and a beer, I may be inclined to vote for them. But that's neither here nor there, you're inventing a false argument on a bunch of what ifs.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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Can you provide any evidence of that?
You should really expand your news gathering beyond Fox News. There's a wealth of information out there.


YouTube - Part 1- Greg Palast and RFK in NYC- MayDay 2007

Karl Rove and the caging lists is actually well covered at this point. In fact, he and his associates have commented on it themselves. Watch the Greg Palast video. The guys is reeks of fraud, corruption, etc. Why the heck do you think he refused to appear before congress under oath and ordinary citizens have even attempted to arrest him themselves. You can't be serious...

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Um, no. He was at an immigration reform event where ACORN was a co-sponser, along with the Catholic Church and other entities.
McCain Hearts ACORN! Was Keynote Speaker at Group's 2006 Rally!
Apparently, you don't subscribe to the McCain doctrine then... guilty by association, D'oh! You should seriously stop relying on Hannity, and O'Reilly for all your news gathering.

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I don't trust any branch of government anymore. They all seem to have OBAMA ties. Everywhere I look there will be an OBAMA tie. When OBAMA becomes President, everything will be an OBAMA tie. We're stuck. Everything will be corrupt like Chicago, IL, his state.
I hate to break it to you, but Obama was never the mayor of Chicago, nor the Governor of Illinois and has little to do with any corruption that may effervesce in the city of Chicago. You may want to look to Daley for that. But let me guess... you'll make a mountain out of a mole hill with Rezko . Thank goodness for [Rezko] and Ayers. Without those two, the pickings would only be dozens of shady people that McCain has associated himself with spanning the decades of his political career. How about his campaign manager's lobbyist ties (i.e. paycheck) from Fannie and Freddie. That seems to be a bit more relevant to the majority of Americans than some 'washed up terrorist' turned professor and 'slumlord'.

Do you read a lot of Tom Clancy novels? Your vague reference to 'Obama ties everywhere you look' means to me you either subscribe to a great deal of fiction or have watched Conspiracy Theory one too many times.

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Old 10-16-2008, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And republicans are infamous for their suppression of legitimate voters:
2004 and 2000 was full of it, sure to come in 2008.

Just because republicans try to distract with voter REGISTRATION "fraud" doesn't mean they will get away with real VOTING suppression fraud.

Partisan Contractors to Count Votes in Illinois, Colorado and Kentucky | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Democratic Election Protection Strategy's Missing Link: Electronic Vote Counts | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Republicans monkey-wrenching the US election vote | World news | guardian.co.uk
/democratic_election_protection_strategy%27s_missin g_link%3A_electronic_vote_counts?page=entire
Republicans Challenge 6,000 Voter Registrations in Montana | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet
Michigan Ordered to Restore Purged Voters | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/democracy/103246/michigan_ordered_to_restore_purged_voters/ - broken link)
GOP Voter Suppression Comes to Wisconsin | Democracy and Elections | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/democracy/98702/gop_voter_suppression_comes_to_wisconsin/ - broken link)

Maybe you don't understand the definition of proof....a blog with a far-left agenda posting a series of allegations is not proof. I don't want to hear about suspicions I want tangible data. Do you have any of that to back up your words.....nope I doubt you do.....you just spew words with no facts.
What does Michigan Law of Purged voters have to do with suppression? It is a law Michigan voted on.....a dem state.
In Montana the Republican party challenged 6,000 votes...only 2,186 of those voters still live in the county....so 4,000 are fraudulent....glad we challenged.
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Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates.”As far back as I can remember, they’ve always voted in the election,” Guidry said of her parents.The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis’ mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.”It was just very shocking, a little unsettling,” said Alexis Guidry.It’s unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.”She’d be very upset,” Guidry said when asked what her mom would think.Trent Seibert, of Texas Watchdog, says you should be too.”This is really disquieting. It’s concerning. It’s worrisome,” said Seibert.He heads up the non-partisan news group on the web.Texas Watchdog compared Harris County’s voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches — registered voters that, it appears, are already dead.Some of them, like Henderson Hill’s late wife Linda, voted postmortem.”I would like to know who did it, myself,” Hill told Davis.We don’t know who used Linda Hill’s or Gloria Guidry’s IDs to vote, but we do know if their names had been purged from voter rolls after they died, using their IDs wouldn’t have worked.”This is a red flag. No matter where you are, this should set off alarm bells,” Seibert said.

Even in Texas ACORN has been hard at work....it is very hard to get away with voter fraud in Texas as all reg's are checked to DPS and the SS admin. and you have to show a picture ID with a matching address to have your vote count. Nonetheless ACORN tries and gets away with a few....FYI that would be dems trying to steal yet another election! This was based on actual data and interviews......
Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters HOUSTON TEXAS | OBAMA ACORN
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:50 PM
 
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Maybe you don't understand the definition of proof....a blog with a far-left agenda posting a series of allegations is not proof. I don't want to hear about suspicions I want tangible data. Do you have any of that to back up your words.....nope I doubt you do.....you just spew words with no facts.
What does Michigan Law of Purged voters have to do with suppression? It is a law Michigan voted on.....a dem state.
In Montana the Republican party challenged 6,000 votes...only 2,186 of those voters still live in the county....so 4,000 are fraudulent....glad we challenged.



Even in Texas ACORN has been hard at work....it is very hard to get away with voter fraud in Texas as all reg's are checked to DPS and the SS admin. and you have to show a picture ID with a matching address to have your vote count. Nonetheless ACORN tries and gets away with a few....FYI that would be dems trying to steal yet another election! This was based on actual data and interviews......
Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters HOUSTON TEXAS | OBAMA ACORN (http://obamaacorn.com/local-2-investigates-dead-voters-houston-texas/ - broken link)
Maybe you don't understand the definition of proof, they reported what happen, not make it up. As in the Michigan case which you ignore, Republican Secretary of State was trying to use that law to purge legitimate voters, now it cannot be done. You wanted them suppressed, too bad, not going to happen. And the case of Montana, it wasn't fraudulent, old addresses were not updated, that is standard republican suppression technique, even if a slight alphabet is misplaced, they label it invalid.
Maybe you have gone senile, the 2000 election was stolen by republicans and in 2004, reports of voter fraud by republicans were reported. The republicans are well known for VOTING fraud, they think they can get away this time by distracting with this REGISTRATION "fraud".
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:48 AM
 
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So they're doing it for their health?
Duuuhhhh... a larger paycheck.

Why is it Conservatives need everything rehashed 20 times and still pretend like they didn't hear it? Look... JOE the PLUMBER is exempt, and besides JOE the PLUMBER isn't even a licensed plumber, so there.
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