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Old 10-18-2008, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Padcrasher is an obvious socialist.
You're an obvious socialist, too. So what?
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:30 AM
 
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So, you even want illegals to be able to get it. You are skum for that one and prove what a socialist you are. Move your butt down to Mexico and help them and stop pushing your socialistic ways onto this country. I think I hear Chavez calling for you.

You are slow. The illegals are getting care now. And you are paying for it!

Why not have everyone pay for it? Instead of only the insured now? Make the illegals pay for it. Make those that don't have insurance now but could because the are irresponsible help pay for it.?

Do you have any sympathy for your company having to pay for these illegals???? They do now, with very little help.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:31 AM
 
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Doesn't matter because neither one of them should even be talking about healthcare. You want a socialist country and that is all there is to it.
Are you saying he is liberal?
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:33 AM
 
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And how do people define socialist? I see it get thrown around a lot on CD
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:34 AM
 
Location: southern california
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yes i do have a clue that is why arnold wants it. to stop running up giant medical bills in the ER with illegals. they will have to go to the same crummy HMO doctor as everybody else when we get universal health and they will have to pay for it with their fake ssn as well. its comes out of their check just like me. if you cant make them leave them charge them.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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According to World's Healthiest Countries - Forbes.com the top 5 healthiest countries in the world are:
1)Iceland
2)Sweden
3)Finland
4)Germany
5)Switzerland
Do you know which of those have publicly sponsored and regulated health care? All.

These are the top 5 countries on the Human Development Index:
1)Iceland
2)Norway
3)Australia
4)Canada
5)Ireland
Do you know which of those countries have publicly sponsored and regulated health care? All.

According to BBC News (2000) the countries with the longest life expectancies are:
1)Japan
2)Australia
3)France
4)Sweden
5)Spain
Do you know which of those countries have publicly sponsored and regulated health care? All.

My point? Universal health care is NOT doomed for failure like Anonymous Political Junky would like people to believe. We could learn a lot from the aforementioned countries.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I don't think with your present system universal health care can be done in your country. At least not for a long time....For pete's sake your government can't even balance a budget. I keep hearing about people coming to the US for your wonderful health care...How come I don't know any? Give me a break.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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You are slow. The illegals are getting care now. And you are paying for it!
I said just that Mr. slow person. I have known that for longer than you can imagine. I am of Mexican descent so I do know what I am talking about when it comes to illegals and Mexicans. You obviously are for a socialistic county. I am not and neither was the founding fathers of this country. BTW, you posted nothing of importance and you didn't tell me anything that is widely known in this country. Try again, and this time only after you get done with your remedial class.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It has to be done in increments. Start by covering all young children for instance. Once they see the cost savings Americans will not go back to the old system of survival of the fittest.
That would still be a huge hit to major businesses. It would pull down our economy in a big way.

If anything, the first step should be to combine the VA, Medicare and Medicaid into one government health insurance provider and allow individuals without insurance to buy into it, if they wish. That would at least make the for-profit insurers clean up their act and become more competitive in offering insurance policies to individuals.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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I don't think with your present system universal health care can be done in your country. At least not for a long time....For pete's sake your government can't even balance a budget. I keep hearing about people coming to the US for your wonderful health care...How come I don't know any? Give me a break.
Because you don't pal around with rich people like that. Try thinking for once in your life.
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